International Zelensky Rejects Trump's Idiotic "Minerals Deal" - Might Tell The US to go F*ck Itself

[Crazy Source]

When did russia become the worlds biggest power ?

They are one of a handful of powerful bad actors on the world stage.

 

[Scerpi]

I think everyone understands that exploiting the Ukrainians and stealing their resources is good for America. It’s just also amoral and wrong.

That's our tax money... American Citizens.

Not some globalist slush fund to be spent at the pleasure of the Military Industrial Complex.

Though that's what our politicians have been doing for decades

There's zero reason why it shouldn't be at least partially paid back.

And maybe the US shouldn't have participated in a CIA funded coup in 2014 to drop the first domino leading to this conflict.

 

[Anewt]

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This whole situation confuses me, so I'm just gonna outright ask this and probably make a tit of myself but anyway - was this simply about the minerals all along? Is that why Russia were there, and are the U.S simply gonna buy them off Zelensky and sell them to Putin? With this 'middleman' behaviour coming with security assurances that, now he's getting his hands on the minerals, Putin will back off?

Dont think it was always just about those particular minerals. ( oil and such was a huge reason imo. it was always about money. )

Record profits for almost every oil corporation on earth somehow ( including russian ones still )

Ukraine got screwed and fleeced . Like most do. Their innocents and people pay the price. Not companies nor goverments.

People still lean on the prop that usa is the " good guys " or the " global police lol ".

Far far closer to a global mafia / cartel than police and has been the entire time. I think its becoming far more obvious tho as it continues to work somehow

 

[Whippy McGee]

So much for the Democrat / Left Cult propaganda machine... threads like this expose how bad they truly are.

 

[Hog-train]

But you can ask if he gave tax cuts to the rich and treats the Average Joe that isn't a MAGA guy with contempt. Show me what evidence disproves that Trump is deporting as many people as possible or that he's shown nothing but deference to Putin?

I mean the pace of his deportations is not anything unusual.

This is from Reuters which is fairly neutral in their reporting.

Trump deporting people at a slower rate than Biden's last year in office

 

[86'd]

Don’t see how Putin benefits from the minerals deal, at all.

It actually finally gives the US a legitimate interest in Ukraine justifying continued security. So that’s not good news for Putin.

This is a W all the way. One authored by Trump.

Even the left admits the minerals deal was W. One they can’t stand America got. I see a lot of Lefties on the net saying they wish EU beat Trump to this. These are Americans too lol

They just can’t stand seeing us win

It benefits him by claiming the territories he has already captured. Then it allows Russia to rebuild and rearm and then wipe their ass with with whatever deal was signed and go after more once ready.

 

[Crazy Source]

It benefits him by claiming the territories he has already captured. Then it allows Russia to rebuild and rearm and then wipe their ass with with whatever deal was signed and go after more once ready.

It's only a matter of time until they do it again. I guess the same group of Russian apologists will be here doing it all again as well.

 

[Andy Capp]

This thread title aged like milk. Donald Trump got what he wanted and it makes you wonder if it will be used in negotiating peace with Russia.

United States of America gets minerals for projects and sales some to other countries including Russia to keep the peace.

So, now you guys recognize soft power is a thing? But not when it comes to support for Ukraine, right?



Honest to Jesus, if brain cells were playing cards the lot of you couldn't make a game of gin rummy.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I mean the pace of his deportations is not anything unusual.

This is from Reuters which is fairly neutral in their reporting.

Trump deporting people at a slower rate than Biden's last year in office

It might be a slower rate but the scope of deportations he wants is a larger scale. He's removing protections and setting quotas for ICE that seem to be unrealistic since they aren't being met despite his threats. It looks like his idea of immigration is to set a price tag for citizenship that only the extremely wealthy could afford and according to him even Russian oligarchs are welcome.

 

[Osculater]

A mod should correct the thread title to reflect another Trump victory

 

[LangfordBarrow]

That's our tax money... American Citizens.

Not some globalist slush fund to be spent at the pleasure of the Military Industrial Complex.

Though that's what our politicians have been doing for decades

There's zero reason why it shouldn't be at least partially paid back.

And maybe the US shouldn't have participated in a CIA funded coup in 2014 to drop the first domino leading to this conflict.

This goes back a lot further than 2014. What you're spouting there is Russian propaganda. As far as being paid back goes, as Macron explained to Trump, that would come from the Russian assets the West has frozen since they're the ones who are waging this war. Making Ukaraine an offer they can't refuse while they're fighting for their sovereignty is a mobster move.

 

[Osculater]

Would like to see Japanese soldiers go hand to hand combat with some kangaroos

They would probably lose against the emus as well

 

[curryjunkie]

This goes back a lot further than 2014. What you're spouting there is Russian propaganda. As far as being paid back goes, as Macron explained to Trump, that would come from the Russian assets the West has frozen since they're the ones who are waging this war. Making Ukaraine an offer they can't refuse while they're fighting for their sovereignty is a mobster move.

thats what they love about it..regardless of how the war turns out, nobody in europe is going to trust the USA going forward, and good luck getting any of them to accompany them on any future military venture ..

 

[Blayt7hh]

That's our tax money... American Citizens.

Not some globalist slush fund to be spent at the pleasure of the Military Industrial Complex.

Though that's what our politicians have been doing for decades

There's zero reason why it shouldn't be at least partially paid back.

And maybe the US shouldn't have participated in a CIA funded coup in 2014 to drop the first domino leading to this conflict.

He didn’t ask for a partial payment. He asked for 5 times that, from a war torn nation whose land he’s supporting Russia in keeping.

It’s a ludicrous “offer”.

 

[GhostZ06]

That's our tax money... American Citizens.

Not some globalist slush fund to be spent at the pleasure of the Military Industrial Complex.

Though that's what our politicians have been doing for decades

There's zero reason why it shouldn't be at least partially paid back.

And maybe the US shouldn't have participated in a CIA funded coup in 2014 to drop the first domino leading to this conflict.

CIA has always seen Russia and china as an advisory.


God you are honestly a moron after that comment. You have a problem with us dumping our old shit on a country that needs it?

we have over er 8,500 M1 in storage...why do we need that much. 4,500 M2 & M3 variants, plus about 2,000 in storage?
M4? there getting replaced m249 saw? Replaced...

why do we need that? We should get paid back for what? For them making use of our old shit that cost more to upkeep and storage? jesus christ you need to get off the orange man D

 

[86'd]

CIA has always seen Russia and china as an advisory.


God you are honestly a moron after that comment. You have a problem with us dumping our old shit on a country that needs it?

we have over er 8,500 M1 in storage...why do we need that much. 4,500 M2 & M3 variants, plus about 2,000 in storage?
M4? there getting replaced m249 saw? Replaced...

why do we need that? We should get paid back for what? For them making use of our old shit that cost more to upkeep and storage? jesus christ you need to get off the orange man D

1000% and it helps US defense companies and stocks as well.

Now with Britain and other EU countries taking up the mantle, it will fuel their economies while shrinking ours

There’s a reason we wanted to be the leading military power post WWII. It has its perks and our economy has been built off of that since

 

[Scerpi]

This goes back a lot further than 2014. What you're spouting there is Russian propaganda. As far as being paid back goes, as Macron explained to Trump, that would come from the Russian assets the West has frozen since they're the ones who are waging this war. Making Ukaraine an offer they can't refuse while they're fighting for their sovereignty is a mobster move.

A mobster move? Hilarious considering what Ukraine was considered before this started.

Its Perfect for the country you fucking lefties labeled to the most corrupt country in Europe not long ago. Ukraine was an ATM for US Politicians... and who knows how many EU Politicians.

How quickly you forget...

Now they're just innocent Cinderella in your eyes. Beacon's of freedom and democracy. What a fucking joke.

Zelensky is just pissed because Ukraine paid for US cooperation/protection under the table through bribes to half of the Swamp in DC.

Fuck em... And fuck Russia. The US and the EU played stupid games in Ukraine for a few decades. No need for the US to hemorrhage money into Ukraine for a few more years.,.. and maybe a hundred thousand or more lives.

No one is going to be happy with the settlements deals when this is finally resolved. Which means its was a good deal for all involved. Ukraine is never getting everything back... It sucks. But Ukraine isn't worth going all in against Russia and risking massive escalation.

Anything that ends this god forsaken mess quickly is worth pursuing.

 

[Scerpi]

1000% and it helps US defense companies and stocks as well.

Now with Britain and other EU countries taking up the mantle, it will fuel their economies while shrinking ours

There’s a reason we wanted to be the leading military power post WWII. It has its perks and our economy has been built off of that since

How? Are they going to force a deal with Zelensky to pay them back as well? Or will all they assets and money they send disappear into a similar black hole.

 

[GhostZ06]

How? Are they going to force a deal with Zelensky to pay them back as well? Or will all they assets and money they send disappear into a similar black hole.

Why do you care what we do with our old shit. Why does this effect you or hurt your feelings? Its helping us out and makes us look reliable. You keep crying about this magical black hole and they need to pay us back? Bro will you stop smelling trumps farts ?

 

[Rational Poster]

Why do you care what we do with our old shit. Why does this effect you or hurt your feelings? Its helping us out and makes us look reliable. You keep crying about this magical black hole and they need to pay us back? Bro will you stop smelling trumps farts ?

He won't