read everything not just your replies. i might have mixed you up with someone else since so many were replying so fast. i dont agree with anyone getting killed over twitter insults. i was simply referring to the fact that khabib didnt insult millions of people even though he could. 3rdly i dont think he incited anything to anyone. insulting millions of people simply means you offended more than just khabib or his wife. and one of the people who took offense could do something crazy that no one wants to happen. 3rdly i was attacked by your fellow men like rabid dogs on this post and taken more insults than i have given and only replied to insults. this thread is yours to examine. before i used any foul language or any insults your rabid dogs fellow men were raining it down.
Your second sentence is the closest I'll get to an apology, and I accept it. I realize you were wound up, but as you mature hopefully you practice the difficult task of keeping your emotions at bay and not reacting to perceived insults/attacks in the same manner.
I'm happy and relieved that you don't agree with anyone getting killed over Twitter insults.
Your third point was the crux of our whole discussion, so I'm glad we finally got there. I partially agree with you. Khabib didn't issue a fatwa (is that the word?) and call for Conor's head. But if Khabib wished to quell the crazies and discourage that radical faction, he wouldn't do it by issuing a warning (that could easily be interpreted, rightly or wrongly is irrelevant, as a veiled threat) to Conor. He would do it by issuing a message to followers of his faith something along the lines of how violence is not the answer and Conor's low-class behaviour is an example of character deficiencies is an example of how not to conduct oneself (or something along those lines, you get the idea). Something not unlike Conor's final message would have been ideal (not giving Conor much credit for that, don't worry).
It's analogous to Donald Trump bringing up Barack Obama's birth certificate and questioning the validity of his US citizenship. Was Trump calling for white supremacists to kill Obama and his family since they're a bunch of illegal aliens? Of course not. But crazy fucking people do exist and could have taken that as motivation to do something horrible. By blustering about Donald encouraged xenophobia and potential violence that could result from the emotions he was stirring up.
Now you might point out that Conor was the one stirring up emotions, not Khabib. Which would be accurate. However, by issuing warnings Khabib is inadvertently encouraging a crazy element that could potentially do something horrible. If this was an isolated incident your position might have more credibility. But Khabib has a track record of tacit encouragement and outright approval of crazies making death threats. When there was going to be a rap concert in Dagestan Khabib did his part to rile up such a fervent moral outrage that the show had to be cancelled due to the extremely high likelihood of people getting killed if the concert took place. Khabib's response? Instead of condemning the potential loss of human life as far more egregious than a rapper's song lyrics, Khabib responded with approval saying the cancellation was "no great loss". That sends the message to the crazies, "well done, your threats worked, Allahamudalla". Had something horrible happened and the rapper and a few of his morally depraved fans died, would Khabib have considered their lives a "great loss"? I suspect not.
This is exactly what's going on with the Conor situation. What Khabib's doing is at best dangerously irresponsible and at worst downright insane. Either way, he repeatedly has contributed to one of the fastest growing problems in the world, and this shit needs to be checked ASAP. And no, I don't mean what happened in New Zealand. My heart fucking weeps for those victims.
Lastly, what exactly do you mean by my "fellow men"? I find it a little concerning that you categorize me with a group of people you describe as "rabid dogs" who were insulting you when you already acknowledged that I was not throwing insults at you. Instead I have shown patience, albeit with condescension sprinkled in. Yet you seem to have a view that you are on one side of a proverbial fence, and myself and "my rabid dogs" are on another side of the fence. Thereby you are automatically ascribing these negative characteristics you associate with them to myself. This is what I really don't like about religion. It basically divides its followers into your allies and your enemies. Christians used to kill people in droves for this reason (pagans, etc). But that was a very long time ago. I think it could be convincingly argued that nowadays most of that mentality (most, not all) is more common among Muslims (with the whole silly "infidel" thing).
There are no genotypically different people on this planet, only phenotypically different people. There is one race on this planet, there is one love on this planet. Sooner people get on board with that, the better off we'll all be. And I believe for the most part religion is a massive obstacle to that.
