"Young talented People don't come into MMA because there is no Money" Is the dumbest statement ever!

[Pls Respond]

He would never have trained with the Gracies, BJJ costs a lot more to learn and he wouldn't have had the money.

Tyson didn't pay for boxing, I remember they tooked him into stay out of trouble.


The point was if Tyson was taken in by the gracies, he would think differently and do nhb fights

 

[Pls Respond]

kids these days are VERY materialistic...all super talented athletes once in HS are already talking about potential pro career and money!

They already know they are going to be good at whatever sport they picked so that's why they daydream

 

[moreorless87]

Tyson didn't pay for boxing, I remember they tooked him into stay out of trouble.

The point was if Tyson was taken in by the gracies, he would think differently and do nhb fights

..and my point is the Gracies would not have "taken up" Tyson because they worked via charging significant training fee's to outsiders.

The same is even more true of MMA which is not a cheap sport to train in seriously and generally depends on almost all of its talent moving from other sports. As I said the reason you see so many US wrestlers in MMA is that there sport offers very little pay, still most wrestlers just move ontop others careers and sometimes sports.

Sorry but this thread is starting to sound like...

 

[straight6]

They already know they are going to be good at whatever sport they picked so that's why they daydream

those sports money are great thus give them something to strive for and dream.

 

[Pls Respond]

Lol Jon Jones a hero??

A lot of athletes will join other sports because of the money.

Plenty of HW wrestlers abandon the sport to pursue a career in football. DC is a rare exception but had the oppurtunity.
Arthur Jones was a successfull wrestler but dropped it to pursue a career in football.

Im sure the same can be said for lower weight sports as well like we'll never how many athletes adopt soccer over fighting, Conor, Aldo were both great soccer players who focused on mma.

Gifted athletic individuals excel in a lot of sports, so it is hard to attract top athletes when the pay scale is worse then the American economy, Dana White makes 100's of millions more then the entire roster put together and he is a 10% share holder.

I only know of one football player that left wrestling after having true talent(NCAA champ) to become an offensive linemen.

As for Arthur, I'm not sure if hebwas super talented but he was talented. I'm sure he picked based on scholarships.

Conot played soccer...wouldn't say it was his dream or he was great.

It's like anybody in existence has played soccer...I'm not going to say that people picked other shit as careers because they sucked at it.

All sports have different attributes...fighting is no different.

A person being great at multiple sports is super rare...some are good but never great, so u can't say so and so would do great at another sport.

Nobody pays ATTN to money when they first start a sport.

I agree UFC fighters deserve more money.

 

[Pls Respond]

..and my point is the Gracies would not have "taken up" Tyson because they worked via charging significant training fee's to outsiders.

The same is even more true of MMA which is not a cheap sport to train in seriously and generally depends on almost all of its talent moving from other sports. As I said the reason you see so many US wrestlers in MMA is that there sport offers very little pay, still most wrestlers just move ontop others careers and sometimes sports.

Sorry but this thread is starting to sound like...

And the point is that Tyson would follow anybody at that point in time so saying he cares about money, was something he learned.

Not all wrestlers want to go to Olympics or be fighters.. Alot of them just chose whatever career they picked in college...like I said, not everybody likes fighting to join MMA.

 

[Pls Respond]

those sports money are great thus give them something to strive for and dream.

Well this is prize fighting, u can dream of being Mayweather but in MMA....which brings up the interesting point that boxing is p4p best paid sport yet u don't see a shitload of ppl joining.

It's because it isn't that popular... Kids join shit that is popular.

 

[Lemmy]

McGregor and Aldo would not be here if they had any success in their soccer careers, that's for sure. Most kids in Europe and Brazil dream of being a soccer player, even tough they might have fighting spirit, or fighting gene as you call it they'll try soccer first. Same in America with football and basketball i guess. Only if they fail in those sports, they might turn to martial arts later. Many of the greatest talents and athletes are in those top mainstream sports, even tough they could have been great in MMA.

look at Felipe Melo: trained to fight in mma, chosen by a football team and "bye bye mma "in a hertbeat.

 

[Gervinho]

why the hell would I want to become fighter if I can become a soccer player and earn far better without getting my head smashed in? Honestly very few fighters dreamt about fighting as child, its ust shit you fall into to make money when other better options are not available

 

[86'd]

Well this is prize fighting, u can dream of being Mayweather but in MMA....which brings up the interesting point that boxing is p4p best paid sport yet u don't see a shitload of ppl joining.

It's because it isn't that popular... Kids join shit that is popular.

So why don't inner city kids play hockey and join the NHL?

 

[JoshR86]

I only know of one football player that left wrestling after having true talent(NCAA champ) to become an offensive linemen.

As for Arthur, I'm not sure if hebwas super talented but he was talented. I'm sure he picked based on scholarships.

Conot played soccer...wouldn't say it was his dream or he was great.

It's like anybody in existence has played soccer...I'm not going to say that people picked other shit as careers because they sucked at it.

All sports have different attributes...fighting is no different.

A person being great at multiple sports is super rare...some are good but never great, so u can't say so and so would do great at another sport.

Nobody pays ATTN to money when they first start a sport.

I agree UFC fighters deserve more money.

There are a lot of young athletes who show potential in a lot of sports, im talking more about high school years, then they decide which one and commit to that one, trust me money and scholarships plays a big part in their decision.

 

[arridude]

I'm not sure about what i'm saying but my thought is that in all Combat Sports, nowdays, after boxing fighters who get paid better are MMA fighters. Am i wrong?

Is there somebody that has a real rank?
example:
1.Boxing
2.MMA
3.Wrestling
4.Kickboxing
etc..

 

[straight6]

Well this is prize fighting, u can dream of being Mayweather but in MMA....which brings up the interesting point that boxing is p4p best paid sport yet u don't see a shitload of ppl joining.

It's because it isn't that popular... Kids join shit that is popular.

boxing is P4P best paid sport, hell no. it may have the highest paid athlete in mayweather but the avg pay of the sport is crap compare to avg of NBA, NFL, MLB, F1, golf, football/soccer, etc.

 

[MasterNinjaRat]

Lets take the money out of fighting and see how many fighters are left. There would be alot of nutjobs in the UFC but i don't think there would be any actual talented or experienced fighters with proven skill.

There are actually any young guys in my gym also that love to fight amateur but are seriously hesitant on turning pro, because they know it is a lot of abuse and hard work for basically nothing compared to work they put in. It isn't even many years when everybody in MMA practice wanted to become the best and fight for the UFC, but something has definetly changed.

 

[Chain Saw]

Lol why is this even a discussion thread........ Of course better paying sports will attract athletes.

Most young athletes will play a lot of sports.

For example me and most of my friends played football during the fall, wrestled or played basketball in the winter and then baseball or whatever in the spring.

Then when you start getting calls for colleges, most people are going to go with football instead of wrestling because... There's a future for football after college. For wrestling, there's only the olympics.

Its not like people play one sport when they are 5 and then never ever consider or play any other sports again...

Most young athletes play a lot of sports and then decide on which one they want to go forward with. Usually its the most well paying one.

 

[Davemeddlehed]

I'm not reading that text-speak bullshit. How lazy does a person need to be to start abbreviating three letter words?

 

[Davemeddlehed]

Lol why is this even a discussion thread........ Of course better paying sports will attract athletes.

Most young athletes will play a lot of sports.

For example me and most of my friends played football during the fall, wrestled or played basketball in the winter and then baseball or whatever in the spring.

Then when you start getting calls for colleges, most people are going to go with football instead of wrestling because... There's a future for football after college. For wrestling, there's only the olympics.

Its not like people play one sport when they are 5 and then never ever consider or play any other sports again...

Most young athletes play a lot of sports and then decide on which one they want to go forward with. Usually its the most well paying one.

That's assuming one is good enough to pursue collegiate football or wrestling. Sometimes the choice isn't much of a choice based solely on the fact that someone isn't good enough to pursue one or the other.

 

[Russ82]

If parents out there had any sense they would have there kids playing golf or tennis at age 3. Screw getting punched/kicked in the head for money.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Fedor had to decide between being a musician and being fighter, as I recall, and he chose the path more likely to pay the bills and put food on his family's plate.
The Diaz brothers allegedly don't really enjoy fighting, but they do it because it makes money.
Jones likes crashing nice cars and bad girls... money.

 

[moreorless87]

I'm not sure about what i'm saying but my thought is that in all Combat Sports, nowdays, after boxing fighters who get paid better are MMA fighters. Am i wrong?

Is there somebody that has a real rank?
example:
1.Boxing
2.MMA
3.Wrestling
4.Kickboxing
etc..

Unless you mean pro wrestlers they do not get paid for than the best kickboxers although I would imagine in some nations there is pretty good state funding on offer.

The biggest MMA names do almost certainly make more than the biggest kickboxing names today but the problem is that its a long and uncertain road to that kind of pay in the UFC which obviously puts people off from making the switch.