You think you have problems? South Africa: People don't understand voting, set fires

[PrinceOfPain]

So, it's our municipal elections this year, and the ANC have opted to put up a new mayoral candidate for the City of Tshwane municipality - a woman named Thoko Didiza.
Apparently this is unacceptable to ANC supporters in Gauteng province (where the municipality is located) because she is a Zulu woman from KwaZulu Natal.

Of course, being the rational lot that ANC supporters are, they have decided that rather than, you know, vote for a different party in the municipal elections, they'd rather shoot the messenger (literally), riot, attack the police, light a lot of fires, set up barricades made of burning buses, and threaten to make Pretoria (the administrative capital, located in the municipality) "ungovernable".

Tribal issues causing conflict in the ANC:

http://www.news24.com/elections/news/they-cant-bring-a-zulu-to-lead-us-tshwane-residents-20160621

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Pretoria - Residents of Atteridgeville, Tshwane, have lashed out at the ANC's decision to put forward Thoko Didiza as mayoral candidate for the city, saying a Zulu person from KwaZulu-Natal cannot be brought in to lead them.

"The ANC cannot bring a Zulu person to rule Pedi, Tsongas, Shangaans and Vendas," a taxi driver told News24 on Tuesday.

"What does she know about Pretoria? Where was she born in Pretoria? She must go back to KZN."

Supporter of the wrong mayor was shot on Sunday:

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/man-shot-at-anc-tshwane-gathering-dies-2036706

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Modihe was shot in the leg and upper body and rushed to Steve Biko Academic Hospital where he died.

It is believed that four men in a VW Polo without licence plates arrived and parked outside the venue. Two jumped out of the vehicle, walked to a group of ANC members standing near the gate and opened fire on them.

Another two were stabbed and assaulted and sustained serious injuries.

The gunmen, one of whom was wearing an ANC-branded shirt, were seen running into nearby flats.

Cops attacked, car flipped:

http://citizen.co.za/1170209/anc-protesters-attack-cops-in-pretoria/

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Three Tshwane metro police officers had to run for their lives on Monday afternoon after a group of disgruntled African National Congress (ANC) members attacked their marked service vehicle in Pretoria.

“They were busy on their normal patrols, unaware that they were driving towards the protesters. They were confronted by the protesters and stones were thrown at them,” Tshwane Metro Police Department (TMPD) spokesperson Isaac Mahamba toldAfrican News Agency.

“All the three were injured. They managed to run away from the protesters and call for backup. The protesters fled.”

The TMPD vehicle the officers were travelling in was overturned on the busy intersection of Francis Baard and Beckett Streets in Arcadia, east of Pretoria.

Spoiler: Pics and vids :)

This is actually a video, but for some reason it starts with a still image, set to music.

The madness continues..
And these aren't even the elections for our president. Watch this space in three years (unless, you know, I'm not around to update you all)

 

[klnOmega]

"The ANC cannot bring a Zulu person to rule Pedi, Tsongas, Shangaans and Vendas," a taxi driver told News24 on Tuesday.
"What does she know about Pretoria? Where was she born in Pretoria? She must go back to KZN."

Fucking xenophobic bigots fighting against multiculturalism. They are literally Voldemort.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Fucking xenophobic bigots fighting against multiculturalism. They are literally Voldemort.

If we call them refugees do you think you guys will take some of these idiots off of our hands for us?

 

[Steve-French]

Last summer I was working on remodeling this house that my boss and this women from South Africa bought to flip. It sounds kind of nuts over there. She was saying that all of the houses have to have huge gated walls built around them for safety purposes in average middle class neighborhoods.

 

[Halge]

"Maybe if we burn a car, they'll give us a car!"

 

[Ayin]

The tribal antagonism in Africa and similar things like the Indian Caste system are certainly interesting looks back on how life used to be and makes me glad to have been born here and now.

 

[7437]

Surprise, Africa is tribal.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

Africa gonna Africa.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Surprise, Africa is tribal.

Racist.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Everything wrong with humanity summed up by one idiot.

"The ANC cannot bring a Zulu person to rule Pedi, Tsongas, Shangaans and Vendas," a taxi driver told News24 on Tuesday.

I always consider myself lucky when I remember Africa exists.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

The tribal antagonism in Africa and similar things like the Indian Caste system are certainly interesting looks back on how life used to be and makes me glad to have been born here and now.

How can you say that when western civilization is the most racist and misogynistic civilization in the history of humanity? Whites are the most evil race and Christianity created the culture of hatred and fear we must endure every day in Western societies. Things are so bad that the current president's wife struggles daily just living in the White House. Monsters!

I will take South Africa any day over your societies of hatred, racism, white privilege and misogyny.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

You know what is funny, they are not completely wrong. Of course this barbarity is wrong, especially killing the messenger, but voting for a third party usually doesn't work in western democracies either.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

You know what is funny, they are not completely wrong. Of course this barbarity is wrong, especially killing the messenger, but voting for a third party usually doesn't work in western democracies either.

That still does not give them the right to act like Western leftists.

 

[Rod1]

If we call them refugees do you think you guys will take some of these idiots off of our hands for us?

Send them to Mexico, we could use more people in the southern states, improve the average height and there is a lot of room for violent protests too.

 

[Rod1]

Africa gonna Africa.

What does this has anything to do with anything?

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

That still does not give them the right to act like Western leftists.

Of course not, but maybe rioting is better than letting the enemy take over through democracy. I don't know about the demographics there, but what if Zulu migration made it sure that new mayor is going to win?

A tribe in Africa is like a nation. Imagine you live in a small euro country that gets overwhelmed by third world migrants that end up electing a muslim government, all through democracy, I'd rather riot.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Of course not, but maybe rioting is better than letting the enemy take over through democracy. I don't know about the demographics there, but what if Zulu migration made it sure that new mayor is going to win?

A tribe in Africa is like a nation. Imagine you live in a small euro country that gets overwhelmed by third world migrants that end up electing a muslim government, all through democracy, I'd rather riot.

To be honest, this is a pretty accurate look at the situation. Zulus are a bit of a problem. They're very aggressive, and they're the largest group in the country. They tend to bully and be abusive, and the division in the ANC is in part because it's a traditionally Xhosa party, but the current president (who drummed the last one out, mid-term via political shenanigans) is Zulu.
I sometimes wish the Zulu had gotten to keep their own state, like they wanted.

Nevertheless, burning buses that are meant take the few members of your family to work the next day is not a good way to resolve anything.
Hell, this may have been deliberately set up by the taxi drivers association. Too many factions and too much infighting in this country to know for sure.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

To be honest, this is a pretty accurate look at the situation. Zulus are a bit of a problem. They're very aggressive, and they're the largest group in the country. They tend to bully and be abusive, and the division in the ANC is in part because it's a traditionally Xhosa party, but the current president (who drummed the last one out, mid-term via political shenanigans) is Zulu.
I sometimes wish the Zulu had gotten to keep their own state, like they wanted.

Nevertheless, burning buses that are meant take the few members of your family to work the next day is not a good way to resolve anything.
Hell, this may have been deliberately set up by the taxi drivers association. Too many factions and too much infighting in this country to know for sure.

Yeah, I don't condone their ways but I can understand what they are feeling.

Btw what is your tribe there or are you white or a foreigner?

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Yeah, I don't condone their ways but I can understand what they are feeling.

Btw what is your tribe there or are you white or a foreigner?

White English.
Most of my black friends are Xhosa or immigrants whose tribes I don't know, so I do get a somewhat one-sided point-of-view. The Zulu can also be vicious to immigrants, so they don't them much either. Whenever we have xenophobic violence, it's usually the Zulu, occasionally egged on by the Zulu king.

 

[Lord Coke]

Yeah, I don't condone their ways but I can understand what they are feeling.

Btw what is your tribe there or are you white or a foreigner?

He is able to operate a computer so let's think about that question for a second.
Democracy was never intended for less advanced cultures. What worked for America does not neccesarily translate into something that works for the rest of the world.