You can hate a fighter and acknowledge their skills

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  1. winkydinks

    winkydinks Green Belt

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    I hate Adesanya, and think he's a cocky dancing kweer. The dude's good af though, and one of the best strikers we've ever seen in the octagon. I could devalue him by saying that Whittaker's chin's shot, and that we still haven't seen him face anyone who's that good. I'm not though.

    I really can't stand Cejudo, but the rouseyesque midget's a little tornado. I could devalue him by saying that MM beat him and that his fw belt is fraudulent thing thing granted him an undeserved bw title shot. I'm not though.

    Khabob pisses me off, and I think the guy's a serious closet narcissist. Nobody has come close to figuring him out though, and perhaps nobody ever will. I could say that he still hasn't faced anyone with an elite ground game. I'm not though.

    These three hit home for me, and I want nothing more than for them to get to put in the hospital. These three are all insanely good fighters.

    Not going into my various opinions on the following fighters, but here are a few more examples.

    -MM was a boring fighter who was never a big crowd draw. Trading him for Askren was worth it.
    -Zabit has no cardio
    -Makhachev is untested
    -Conor's fight with Cowboy was fixed
    -Woodley gave Usman the strap, and he landed a lucky punch that kept him from losing to Colby
    -Jones and Silva's career accomplishments would've been impossible without roids
    -DC wins via eye pokes
    -Nunes is half man

    Opinions can consist of compromises guys. Some of the threads I've seen in the past couple days have been ridiculous
     
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    There's an asymmetry between the more detailed examples you open with and the longer list at the bottom of your post: the first seems to consist of personal attacks while the latter are criticisms of these athletes as fighters. Which kind are you looking for? To my mind, the second kind is the more interesting one, since I can consistently attribute virtually any character flaw and virtually any martial skill to one and the same person (except perhaps for those character flaws that undermine their performances as athletes). The second kind will bring out fighters who excel despite certain apparent deficits in their fighting.
     
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    sdpdude9 Brown Belt

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    Not a fan of Conor or Jones by any means, but definitely acknowledge they’re both top tier fighters. Conor has some weaknesses that certain fighters will be able to consistently take advantage of, but he beats 95% of fighters at LW and maybe even WW (haven’t seen enough there.) Jones is obvious the best LHW we’ve ever seen and I still don’t see anybody I think has more than a punchers chance.
     
  4. RearNakedTokes

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    Sam Alvey, Kevin Lee, Peahead, Johnny Walker, Cejudo, Makwan, Zubaira, Gallagher, Werdum, Woodley, Usman, Reyes, Urijah

    I actually hate everyone. Fuck em
     
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  5. Hatorade

    Hatorade Green Belt

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    Can't stand Jones, but he's probably the best MMA fighter to ever live at any weight. I like DC, but Jon is the better fighter. I love Fedor, but he couldn't hold Jon's jock if we're being serious.
     
  6. Fox by the Sea

    Fox by the Sea Lighthouse keeper Platinum Member

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    i actually dislike mma. i dont know why the fuck i am posting in this stupid forum for years
     
  7. Skarr

    Skarr Brown Belt

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    Im not really a fan of any of the current champs, Volk is all good I guess
     
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    humdizzle Purple Belt

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    Finally a reasonable thread
     
  9. crocopteam

    crocopteam I don't need no belt!

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    Not on Sherdog.
     
  10. AtaTheCrow

    AtaTheCrow Immortal

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    nah mate, i dont hate any fighter. I just want to see them tested if they talk too much
     
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    caliboi74lv Black Belt

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    Yeah, there's fighters i don't like, but if they have skill I can't deny that.
    I'll give credit where credit is due, but I'll root against them.
     
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    Kind of like Jon Jones' cocaine usage or Mark Kerr's pain killer usage. They each experimented with those skill sets at one time.
     
  13. RoJo303

    RoJo303 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    You had me up until:

    "Conor's fight with Cowboy was fixed"

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    Every fight Conor has had since Brandao they said was fixed. Do you also believe the earth is flat? Why didn't Cowboy just submit Conor and get that Nate rematch money? Why get a smashed face, broken bones, last more than a minute and all for the smallest paycheck of any Conor opponent since Siver?

    Were Aldo's tears faked too or was that legit?
     
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    Coke is way better to experiment with if your a fighter. Pain pills are heroin. Straight Pharma heroin. You can still have success after a speed habit, but heroin messes up your brain chemistry big time. Kerr should have hung out with Jones and would still be smashing people.
     
  15. AtaTheCrow

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    all fake mate, you can see Aldo using eye drops seconds after going on his knees.

    Come on mate don't exaggerate!
    No one said that all conors fights were fixed. Conor just had papa Dana give him the right opponents on the right time (very important).

    Cowboy is no different, right opponent on the right time.
    He could fight so many other LWs that want to win at any cost, but from all of them they choose Cowboy on a losing streak at the end of his career....

    Not fixed, just the right fight.
     
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    I dislike Conor a lot and since he first entered the scene. I dislike everything about his persona. But I have to admit he's a great fighter and his fight against cowboy wasn't fixed. Sure cowboy is no too 3 stud anymore, but it was still Impressive. I even think he beats Gaethje and Tony at this point. I'm not sure about Masvidal. Khabib has his number too.

    He has great skills but I can't stand him. I'll be happy if khabib finishes him again.
     
  17. Guan Di

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    You are wrong! It's the internet and no one will stand for an opinion that isnt one side of an extreme or another. Just for posting this concept several Sherdoggers are now in the process of boycotting your threads, trying to get you fired, and figuring out what emotional damage you have caused introducing these ideas out in the open where even children can see them so that their lawyers can decide how much to sue for.
    The internet is no place for logic and reason. Please change the title thread to something outrageous. I suggest "Connor LITERALLY Raped the Cowboy" or "In Slow Motion, You See Clearly Conterd Slipped Cowboy a Wad of Cash When Rogan Called it a Handshake" depending on your feeling. Thank you.
     
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  18. winkydinks

    winkydinks Green Belt

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    The first ones were personal to me, and I briefly stated my issues in a coarse manner. There are others whom I listed below that I could've done the same to. I didn't though, because I didn't want to be more long-winded than I already had been. I like some of the below ones, and I dislike some. They just seem to be heavily criticized in general. I generally don't like fighters for their personalities outside of the octagon. However, I can respect the fact that they're good fighters.
     
  19. cyrusthevyrus

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    your avatar is from a porn?
     
  20. Blanqa Blanqua

    Blanqa Blanqua Silver Belt

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    So you called Adesanya a queer, accused Cowboy of fixing a fight, Said Nunes is half man.

    That's what you're going with?
     

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