Y'all hating on Dana White for being angry because Woodley won ...

[Phisher]

I like how you waited five days to post this shit take and still can't get that many co-signers.

 

[Psychedelic]

@Psychedelic


Don't you mean 3 instead of 2?
It's not like Wonderboy vs Woodley 1 was any different than Wonderboy vs Woodley 2
That plus the Maia match makes it three.

I liked the first fight, tbh. It was an entertaining scrap.

 

[Phisher]

@Psychedelic


Don't you mean 3 instead of 2?
It's not like Wonderboy vs Woodley 1 was any different than Wonderboy vs Woodley 2
That fight plus the Maia fight makes it three.

Woodley/Thompson 1 was FOTN at UFC 205. Nobody was angry about what they saw immediately afterwards

People only decided that it was terrible fight after the rematch.

 

[Psychedelic]

I like how you waited five days to post this shit take and still can't get that many co-signers.

If I gave a fuck about cosigners, I wouldn't have written this thread in the first place.

The second I signed up for a thread that doesn't bash Dana White, I knew I was going to war.

{<Mcgoat}

 

[IndyCovaHart]

Dude... after having to deal with GSP, I’m surprised Dana doesn’t kiss Tyron’s ass.

TWood comes off as an entertainer extraordinaire by comparison.

 

[AyDeeDee]

@Psychedelic


Don't you mean 3 instead of 2?
It's not like Wonderboy vs Woodley 1 was any different than Wonderboy vs Woodley 2
That fight plus the Maia fight makes it three.

Why isn't the blame put on Maia and Choirboy for making those fights boring? A champion is supposed to game plan correctly and defend intelligently. It's the job of the hungry contender to bring the heat which Choirboy and Maia failed to do. Tyron completely nullified the game plans of both Maia and Wonderboy and did what he had to win, high level MMA fans appreciated both fights, casuals however hated them because they don't understand high level MMA.

 

[Psychedelic]

Woodley/Thompson 1 was FOTN at UFC 205. Nobody was angry about what they saw immediately afterwards

People only decided that it was terrible fight after the rematch.

This is how the Sherdog hive mind works. No one likes to think on their own. Instead, they parrot what has already been said, in order to fit in, and not upset their fellow Shertards.

 

[Iroh]

Both Woodley and Dana have good points. Also, Woodley has tamed it down considerably with the questionable accusations and complaints for a while now. So both parties should be able to come to an understanding quite easily, right now, and get passed their past hick ups and get the promotional machine behind Woodley.

 

[Ryan G]

Woodley/Thompson 1 was FOTN at UFC 205. Nobody was angry about what they saw immediately afterwards

People only decided that it was terrible fight after the rematch.

No, the first one sucked too. It had one crazy round, but the rest of the fight (aka the other 4 rounds) were basically the same thing as the rematch. People just remember the crazy part and forget that most of that fight was a staring contest.

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

tyron is a very marketable champ. keeps his name in headlines, has a single coming out on the radio, dont matter if its trash, Hes on UFC tonight so fans and casuals get to see him on a semi regular basis. has a good highlight reel and has seperated himself from the rest of the division.


yeah tyron might says things that people dont agree with. still a marketable fighter imo and one the UFC should have already been pushing

 

[IamStryker]

Dana helped create that narrative. Maybe he should try being positive about his fighters in the slower fights instead of shitting on them immediately after.

 

[sabretitan]

You make some valid points ts

 

[Haj01]

Tyron is not that boring. Every fighter has some boring fights now and then. But Dana never shits on them as much. Dana evem used to say Anderson Silva wasn't always a big draw but then became that.

Well Tyron has that same potential too. You want to talk about victim mentality. Plenty of other fighters who are alot more whiny and bitchy. Tyron didn't even say anything for this camp.

 

[Airdack]

Every point you made was stupid.

Ford escort is a perfect example of why its not about Tyron's skin color. Dana had no problem promoting the fuck out of him. Tyrons just a whiny bitch who cant admit he doesn't know jackshit about self promotion. Fucking only call out he does was a retired gsp. Instead of promoting Tyron would go on radio shows and bitch about him not being popular or pushed cause hes black. Fuck him.

 

[Kleinschuster]

Maybe if he promoted him instead of throwing him under bus for 2 straight years he would sell PPV? Also have you seen the AS fight vs. Maia? That was boring.

 

[Kleinschuster]

Tyron is not that boring. Every fighter has some boring fights now and then. But Dana never shits on them as much. Dana evem used to say Anderson Silva wasn't always a big draw but then became that.

Well Tyron has that same potential too. You want to talk about victim mentality. Plenty of other fighters who are alot more whiny and bitchy. Tyron didn't even say anything for this camp.

True all of that. Everbody had some stinker fights if they fight often enough.

BTW: Your Av is hilarious. How he kicks out his leg midair to make it look more brutal... ^^

 

[Threetrees]

Ford escort is a perfect example of why its not about Tyron's skin color. Dana had no problem promoting the fuck out of him. Tyrons just a whiny bitch who cant admit he doesn't know jackshit about self promotion. Fucking only call out he does was a retired gsp. Instead of promoting Tyron would go on radio shows and bitch about him not being popular or pushed cause hes black. Fuck him.

You seem upset

 

[Kleinschuster]

Why isn't the blame put on Maia and Choirboy for making those fights boring? A champion is supposed to game plan correctly and defend intelligently. It's the job of the hungry contender to bring the heat which Choirboy and Maia failed to do. Tyron completely nullified the game plans of both Maia and Wonderboy and did what he had to win, high level MMA fans appreciated both fights, casuals however hated them because they don't understand high level MMA.

Especially after Stephen and Maia refused to go after Woodley. Maia shot for takedowns 2 meters away for 5 rounds instead of adapting and trying something else.

 

[The Crow]

... but if you were in his shoes, you'd have done the same thing, if not worse.

Throughout his title reign, Tyron Woodley has consistenty been a promoter's nightmare, for the following reasons:

1) He is unable to sell PPV's or generate interests in his fights.

UFC 228 is expected to have abysmal numbers, and the prelims to Tyron's PPV did the lowest number of viewership in the past 12 months.

2) He has been involved in two of the most boring title fights in the history of the UFC.

Captain Obvious will point out that these matches' pace were dictated by Maia and Wonderboy (the 2nd fight), and that it's not really Woodley's fault. However, it takes two to tango, and Tyron played a major part in those shitshows.

3) He always plays the victim card

Nobody likes a perpetual victim. There's always someone out there conspiring against Tyron Woodley. The big man is out there to get him. The corporation is out there to get him. The fans are out there to get him. It never crosses his mind, that maybe it's his own fault that he's not the big star and PPV slayer that he aspires to be.

Adopting this persona in combat sports is like shooting yourself in the foot.

In Tyron's own words: "Is it because my skin's brown that I don't get a fair chance ?"



(timestamped)

... which brings us to the next, and final point:

4) The race baiting

Tyron Woodley has been consistently pulling the race card whenever he's in a tight spot, for short term gain, in order to get himself African American fans and become a cultural hero.

What he does not realize, that in the process, he's alienating fans from all other races. Is it really a good idea to keep racebaiting against the target group who mainly buys your PPV's ?

Moreover, we are all human. If I was a promoter, and a fighter keeps digging at my race, would I really be enthusiastic to promote the fighter ?

It's like, this whole thing with Woodley is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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All in all, what I wanted to address is that people demonize Dana White for his attitude towards Tyron. Now Dana is a grade A asshole, but when it comes to his shenanigans with Tyron Woodley, I believe that his resentment towards The Chosen One is justified.

Pretty spot on. Only people that really dislike Dana and/or morons will disagree.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Im still mad