Just saw an artical in fighters only mag for XFGEAR.COM 's rashgaurds. it was rated higher than the others tested but they screwed up.... For some reason the company was called Fightgear XF instead of XFGear or Xtreme Fight Gear. But you clearly see the sleeve of the shirt that shows the company name. How could a company publish a screw up like that? don't they check these things, or read for that mater. but anyway, way to go XFGEAR for having a great product.
Tommy-sambo: Yea we saw the new Fighters Only Magazine and we did get a great review and we were rated higher than Hunter, NoGi Brazil, and Evolution. We spoke to the Magazine about the name messup and they have fixed it on their website( www.fightersonlymag.com ). Unfortunatly the magazine is already out and they cant change it . We are trying to work something out With them. Either way we love to get the great review. Thanks Paul www.xfgear.com
Paul: I am really surprised and disappointed at your post here. We supplied that rash guard not you. We paid for it not you. At the time we were arranging to be the suppliers of your products here in this country and you were fully aware that we were putting the rash in for review. I find this totally unprofessional bearing in mind it was me who did this AND sent you the review and you haven't even had the courtesy to respond. The reason it was identified as the Fightgear model was simply because it was our design on the back. When the details were sent to the magazine it was identifed as being the 'Fightgear XF Rashguard' simply because WE were supplying it and it was OUR design.
Well alright. Fightgear I'm sure that is not what Paul was intending. I know Paul and his is a cool guy. I know he would not purposly try and take business away from you. I can see his point, he is trying to get his company name recognized. And although it was your design on the rashguard the rashguard is still his. It was an XFGear rashguard with yalls logo on it, so if people want one without the logos then they have to contact Paul not you. I think the guy who makes the rashguard should get some credit here. However, I see your side as well, yoiu provided it so people should recognize your company for doing so. I think this is just a mix up in communication. Oh by the way, I talked to Paul last week (about the new fight shorts ), and he is in California for the next week training with Gokor so he is kina MIA right now. He will get it all sorted out ASAP I'm sure. Congrads on the article though, that is great! I'm sure your sales are going to be lovin that :wink: I can't get that link to work, does anyone know the link to that mag.
Roy, What are you talking about. First off , Im out of town right now and didnt get a chance to contact you about the issue. First off -That is not your design! We do flag blends of every country and have for years now . That design that your taking credit for is availible on our website and has been availible since before you even knew us. Second - you want to talk about unprofessional . You are attacking us in an open forum before even talking to us and you are trying to take credit for our design. Yes you did send our Rashguard to Fighters Only Magazine and yes we knew you had and that is great but we never gave you permission to claim it as a different name. You billed it as a Fight Gear shirt and it is not . WE SENT THAT SHIRT TO YOU AS A FREE SAMPLE 4 MONTHS AGO! IT WAS AN XFGEAR.COM SHIRT THEN AND IT STILL IS NOW! Why would you think it was OK to put your name on it . We had a conversation on the phone 3 weeks ago that you were going to be a dealer for us . I told you then that we did not do private lable and if you wanted to sell our products that was good but we would not put a different brand name on our shirt. We do custom and will put other logos on shirts like school names , fight teams, and even we were going to do your store logo to advertise your store as a dealer for us. It says on the artwork layout I sent you " Authorized Dealer of Xtreme Fight Gear". Which after your attack here you definatly are not authorized to sell our product. But on all our custom shirts it says XFGEAR.COM IN AT LEAST 2 PLACES ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE SHIRT. Other dealers have our products listed as our products and If thay do custom than they still say it is an xfgear shirt that also has their logos. This is not hard to understand . You just refuse to listen and follow our policy. And for your information I was going to post on this thread before you attacked us that You were our dealer for the UK and that the Magazine had missprinted but you were the contact for our product in the UK. I was going to tell everyone that you had our shirt submitted and that we greatly appreciated it. The magazine said it was a missprint on their part but by your own admission on this thread you led them to believe it was your shirt . So now you let me and every one know that it wasnt the magazines fault it was yours and that you did it purposly. We discussed that the magizine would list you as the dealer of our shirt (XFGEAR) but instead you had them list it as yours . That is theft . And to make it worse you said it was your design which as stated above it has been our design since before your company was even started. My designer and myself did the art work and have the originals to prove it. People have been going to our website for over a year now and seeing the mixed flag design. If anyone has any quastions in refferance to this than please email me and I can show proof of what I say is True. And Im sure you will see that many people on this forum can vouch for the fact that the shirt ,the design, and the name xfgear.com and XTREME FIGHT GEAR ARE OURS. Paul Owner -Xtreme Fight Gear www.xfgear.com
Fightgear UK, Paul(XFGear) makes our Team Hayastan / Cryogel rashguards, we've been doing business with them for a little while now, I'm kind of surprised to see that you are claiming the design on the shirt that you submitted to the magazine as yours. Yes it was nice that you took the time out to put in the shirt and have it reviewed but this design wasn't yours, yes XFGear did give you a rashguard with that design(British flag/Brazillian flag) on it but you did not contruct or create that design. I have seen all designs that XFGear has done with the two flags blending together(this is one of the popular things they do) but just because you have this particular design on your shirt, doesn't make it your design. Hopefully this is some type of misunderstanding on your part Fightgear UK and hopefully there can be a better resolution to this problem then posting this on a public forum. Charles DeVos Accounts Executive Vitaminerals Inc.
Firstly: at no point in your posting do you make any mention of Fightgear. The impression created is that this was a mistake on the magazines part. We DID NOT imply that the shirt was ours other than we were the company dealing with it. As for the design.... we requested the design in the format it was printed and you yourself said in the telephone call that it was the first time you had been asked for it. Secondly: Why should I supply a shirt that I don't sell to a magazine to test and review? Thirdly: as for not listening or following your policy.... you know this is untrue. We asked for certain designs to be printed. We had a discussion. At no point did I ask for the product to be branded as anything other than yours. Finally... as any contact with the magazine in question would show, we did not in any way make out that the rash was 'ours' how the hell could we when it blatently said 'XF Gear' and your website down the sleeves and on the front? I even have photographs of our stand at the Seni event in April where we allocated a complete wall of our stand to your products with your crest in the middle. I think this 'dirty laundry' has gone far enough now and a parting of ways is best for all concerned. Good luck with your excellent product.
This is a sad ending to what could have been a good relationship. I think that it is mainly do to miscomunication. In the end Xtreme Fight Gear( www.xfgear.com ) will move on and will continue to offer top quality products with top quality service. If you ask anyone who has ordered from us than they can vouch for our good service. I definately do not agree with all your above statements But whats done is done . For all those in the UK Who Have been waiting for an official xfgear dealer we will try to have one soon. Until then , you can purchase direct from us in the US and it is usually takes only about 2 weeks for delivery and is only about $7 USD. Thanks Paul Xtreme Fight Gear www.xfgear.com
You guys are both great businessmen and deserve the props in that magazine. Anyways, I hope you guys can get on that phone and talk it over. The internet is the worst way to personally communicate with someone. Good luck to both of you all.
Hey Guys What Soid said it true , you guys are professionals and great businessmen . Why don't you guys try to come to an agreement off this forum and try to settle it . We are sure this was a big miscommunication between both parties . Roy is an outstanding guy and so is Paul , otherwise we won't come here and speak up. BTW , to break the ice and without the intention to hijack this thread , how do we do to have our RG reviewed in that mag ??
Thanks for the kind words guys. Im sure this will blow over in time and maybe someday me and Roy can laugh about it and maybe work together in the future . For Now we just agree to disagree and let time deel with it. I do not have personal hard feelings towards Roy. I just dont understand his actions. Apparently he didnt understand my actions or my intentions either. Rio, As far as the mag goes ,I do give credit to Roy for getting it in the Mag. I know that I also Spoke to Ian Freeman via email several months ago about this. He is the editor and put a thread on MMA.TV about looking for Fightwear companies. I replied to the thread and he said he would contact me when they did rashguards but between then and now Roy had set up a deal to supply 3 of the rashguards that were reveiwed .One was ours. So speak to Roy or possibly Ian Freeman and that is where I would start. Thanks Again Paul www.xfgear.com
BTW , the link to the Magazine is fixed above and I will list it again here just in case. www.fightersonlymag.com
It is really great to see the response and support were getting after this artical. We Welcome the UK and all of Europe into the XFGear family. Thanks Paul www.xfgear.com
I am one who can and will vouch for XFGear as great rg's. I have two (not custom) and they are awesome. I had them in about 4 days after ordering. You cannot beat their rg's.
XFGear and Fightgear UK were also both somewhat featured in this October's issue of Grappling Magazine, as both their logos were listed on the Cryogel ad as retailers.
