Xande tears up my buddy

[Deleted member 10003]

There was a small judo tournament at MSU awhile back. Some of Xande's students were going to it so he came along. He joined for a little practice for a thing he had in brazil in a couple weeks. My friend didn't even know who he was until later. Someone told him he was just a BJJ guy and that he would do just fine. Xande kind of toys with him for awhile before putting it away. My friend has been doing judo for about 2 years, maybe a little less. He got his black belt in japan.

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[Samurai Jack]

Xande

 

[KDawg]

Didn't look that impressive... he should have scored on those kata gurumas though

 

[gringobling]

Xande

 

[Hammer Time]

didnt look so great in the vid. was ur friend a white belt here. no very nice clean throws

 

[Q mystic]

For sure playing with him. He had buddys balance broken often. Kudos, nice vid.

Was that the gold medal match?

 

[LCDforMe]

Damn, that was cool to watch.

A friend of mine got a picture with Xande down at the pan ams...he looks pretty fucking thick.

 

[Deleted member 10003]

My buddy said it was like trying to unbalance a brick wall. It wasn' tlike Xande was trying super hard, so it isn't going to be anything super impressive.

 

[Balto]

For those of you who were less than thrilled by Xande's performance:

You have to remember that he is fighting with a more BJJ oriented style of judo. In other words, it is more conservative instead of flashy.

You're right; he did not make the 101 Ippons highlight reel there.

But you also have to realize that he completely dominated that match. He was in no danger whatsoever the entire fight. He had tons of opportunities to go to the ground under favorable terms, and just decided to keep it standing to make it more interesting.

He also could have easily scored at least a wazari on those kata gurumas. He was just being nice there.

So overall I was still pretty impressed with his performance. Not world class, but still good enough to go up against a tough local competitor for 4 minutes and not even be threatened once.

And to the guy who asked if Xande was fighting a white belt:

No, he was fighting a black belt. You'll notice that Xande was wearing a blue belt too, but he is not a blue belt.

In judo, every competitor is either white or blue. Sometimes they wear an entirely white gi or an entirely blue gi, but in this smaller tournament, they are just wearing white/blue belts to signify it instead. They are both black belts.

 

[anaconda]

in that case, bighead, you said your friend has been training for two years? thats pretty fast for a judo black, no? (serious question)

 

[Balto]

in that case, bighead, you said your friend has been training for two years? thats pretty fast for a judo black, no? (serious question)

From my experience with judo, that is a reasonable time frame.

In all of the martial arts I've trained that have had a belt system, rank matters the least in judo. They give out black belts pretty quickly (it's pretty much just a license to compete in major tournaments).

Nobody in judo really cares at all what rank you are. What they do care about is who has won medals, and in which competitions.

So basically it is very easy to get a black belt in judo, but nobody cares about that anyway. They care about winning tournaments, and that is actually a pretty big accomplishment.

 

[Q mystic]

From my experience with judo, that is a reasonable time frame.

In all of the martial arts I've trained that have had a belt system, rank matters the least in judo. They give out black belts pretty quickly (it's pretty much just a license to compete in major tournaments).

Nobody in judo really cares at all what rank you are. What they do care about is who has won medals, and in which competitions.

So basically it is very easy to get a black belt in judo, but nobody cares about that anyway. They care about winning tournaments, and that is actually a pretty big accomplishment.

I don't know Balto, but the only 2 yr to black programs I have heard of are in japan.

Up here in Canada I would say a serious 3x/wk judoka would get his in about 4-6 years with good comp experience.

 

[Balto]

I don't know Balto, but the only 2 yr to black programs I have heard of are in japan.

Up here in Canada I would say a serious 3x/wk judoka would get his in about 4-6 years with good comp experience.

I guess it depends on region, but I'm primarily talking about the Japanese system here since they invented judo and are still the best at it.

I think even over here though competition results still greatly outweigh rank.

You can just see it from seminar flyers. A BJJ seminar flyer will advertise "BJJ black belt from Brazil" and lots of people will still come.

A judo seminar flyer usually doesn't even list rank. It just lists high level competition results most of the time, like "Silver medalist at Pan Ams" or something.

At most of the places I have seen, a lot of the best judo fighters were shodan. Although there were lots of older people there who had nominally higher ranks, the guys with the best competition records usually had the final word in instruction.

 

[Q mystic]

I guess it depends on region, but I'm primarily talking about the Japanese system here since they invented judo and are still the best at it.

I think even over here though competition results still greatly outweigh rank.

You can just see it from seminar flyers. A BJJ seminar flyer will advertise "BJJ black belt from Brazil" and lots of people will still come.

A judo seminar flyer usually doesn't even list rank. It just lists high level competition results most of the time, like "Silver medalist at Pan Ams" or something.

At most of the places I have seen, a lot of the best judo fighters were shodan. Although there were lots of older people there who had nominally higher ranks, the guys with the best competition records usually had the final word in instruction.

I agree. Belts don't mean much. I think comp>rank all over the world. Plenty champs seem to be content with just getting the shodan. Maybe after retirement they take moving up in rank more seriously.

I remember there was a cool informative thread about ranks in judo with plenty pitching in. I'll try and find it.