Wrestler vs striker, always bet on the wrestler still?

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  1. bjpenngoat Silver Belt

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    Other than chuck and mirko I think its safe to say that conventional wisdom is to always bet on the wrestler in a matchup.of pure styles. Are there any other strikers you can think.of that you would favor over any wrestler they face.
     
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    Chuck and Mirko had incredible TDD. Hell, Chuck was an NCAA wrestler iirc.

    There's no such thing as a striker or wrestler anymore. Just fighters who prefer one or the other. But many MMA experts do say that wrestling is the best base to start training in MMA.
     
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    Striker wins sometimes
     
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    GSP was a karateka who made wrestlers and wrestling in general his bitch. He outstrikes and outwrestles them.

    Max has done a great job against wrestlers, too, although he hasn't faced the best ones in his division--Edgar and Mendes.
     
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    But as has been said. The is no pure styles anymore.

    The strikers can wrestle. And the wrestlers can strike. And that's just the simplest way of putting it.

    If you prefer to strike you better be good enough to avoid the mat against anyone and if you want to grapple you need the ability to get your opponent down there.

    If two guys with differing preferences in that regard meet in the cage it all comes down to who gets to decide where the fight takes place. And if you cannot do that you better hope you have different ways of winning that fight.
     
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    In MMA the better fighter wins at least almost half the time.
     
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    Tony Fryklund wasn't a wrestler...
     
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    Depends on the striker, and depends on the wrestler.
     
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    Same size, same age, same cardio, same everything, best striker vs best wrestler, the wrestler wins.
     
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    Wrestling MMA has changed. Everyone is too well rounded now for so many guys to just dominate a fight purely with their wrestling. Even the wrestlers that are successful, like Khabib, have incredibly diverse and well rounded games, with world class BJJ/grappling to boot..
     
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    As long as the striker got good takedown defence and can get back to his feet when takendown like Israel adesanya, I'd always bet on that kind of striker.
     
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    Judging wise, we've come along away.A takedown that lasts seconds is now scored of a more appropriate manner ...also if a wrestler just buries his head in opponents abdomen.
    Wrestling , though, is still one of the top disciplines you'd want in your arsenal
     
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    Well a wrestler usually needs to be the physically stronger opponent. If someone can chain takedowns like Khabib, DC, or Maia, they can overcome the size/strength requirement.

    With that said, it is hard to KO/TKO a trained fighter in their prime, so I'd go with the wrestler.
     
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    McGregor knocking out Mendes in the 2nd was pretty impressive considering how few people thought he could beat a wrestler. Yes, it was short notice for Mendes. However, it was also not long for McGregor to train for what was supposedly his kryptonite. He doesn't get enough credit for that win in my opinion, in fact people point to it as supposed proof he can't beat a wrestler, even though he beat the wrestler.

    I always favoured Anderson whenever he fought a wrestler, including Weidman. One of the few guys whose speed always made up for the TD threat.

    Jones - DC 1 showed how well-rounded Bones is. Although he is also a strong wrestler, that's DC's wheelhouse, and I honestly thought DC would grind him out.

    I'm sure there are others, those are the three that spring to mind.
     

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