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would you rather be the taller or shorter fighter in MMA?

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  1. skullmaskkid

    skullmaskkid Banned Banned

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    in boxing a wiry/lanky build is considered a good build for a boxer, for a reason. the shorter boxer almost has no advantage, the only thing he can do is try to OVERCOME the advantage of the taller boxer by boxing inside and using headmovements and hooks. Tyson is the perfect example, but even then a good taller boxer like Lewis and even Douglass will take him apart.

    This is why in boxing the weight classes are separated by such miniscule weight. You almost never see 2 boxers compete with the height/reach disparity that you see in MMA. only in HW really and the taller guys dominate those divisions.

    what about MMA?
     
  2. Ez Eric

    Ez Eric Amateur Fighter

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    - Better at close range
    - Takedown defense
    - Harder to sweep when in top position
    -usually the shorter guy is stronger than someone taller in the same weight class
     
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    This and lower center of gravity for takedowns.
     
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    Well good thread. This guy pretty much finished it.
     
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    The overhead left/right is easier to use for the shorter fighter, and more difficult for the taller one. I think this played a factor into how Cormier survived the huge overhead right that Johnson threw at him: Johnson had to lean so far down to connect that it took away some of the force of the blow.
     
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    skullmaskkid Banned Banned

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    you are right, theoretically there are some advantages

    but is it better to be the taller figher? or shorter one?
     
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    If you have a wrestling base its better to be shorter.
     
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    Jon Jones and Phil Davis would disagree. All depends on the fighter.
     
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    It's preferable to be taller because you have a better margin of error.
     
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    Ez Eric Amateur Fighter

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    I read the title wrong. Definitely not MORE advantages but there are SOME advantages to being shorter.

    It also depends on what weight class. At FW and LW it seems more helpful than HW. There have been many dominant short and stocky HWs such as Fedor, Igor, DC, Hunt, etc. Maybe that is because the bigger heavyweights are so much slower and the shorter HWs have such a speed and technique advantage so they can easily close the gap. That would be harder to do at a low weight class against someone with more reach and they are probably just as quick.
     
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    If the shorter fighter had a 10" penor then I'd rather be that guy :D.

    That aside with all things being equal on the skills front then I think I would rather be the taller fighter as I suspect the majority of the time its an advantage being able to control the range with all fights starting on the feet etc. Being taller "probably" makes it easier to move around the weight classes and be competitive too. There are always the shorter guys with one particular amazing skill that throws range out the window, i.e. woodley KO pwer, GSP wrestling, so its not a huge advantage/ disadvantage either way the height thing. Its generally down to fighter skill, and the size can compliment it or not.
     
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    skullmaskkid Banned Banned

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    no you didn't I changed the title because this is a more interesting debate
     
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    If you have a wrestling based gameplan better to be shorter, if you're mainly a striker than taller is ideal.
     
  15. Harlekin

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    Taller is always better, end of discussion
     
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    Shorter with long reach.
     
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    Having to punch upward still takes a toll not to mention having to kick higher.
     
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    Agreed, I can mention tons of fights where the shorter fighter was at a significant disadvantage due to height difference. I would be hard pressed to find any the other way, maybe a Struve fight.
     
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    Completely depends on the fighter. If I'm a traditional wrestler I'd rather be a bit shorter so I can dominate inside. If you have long arms it's kind of hard to generate power from inside. The shorter guy will have an easier time landing takedowns due to center of gravity.

    However Jon Jones proves there's always an exception to the rule. He can generate huge power from inside due to his excellent technique (knees and elbows) and he has great balance and awareness to stay on the feet if someone's trying to take him down. His sense of range makes him a deadly outside striker. Closing the gaps with spinning elbows and strings of strikes.

    If I had to mould the "perfect" fighter I'd make him tall and long. Jones proves there's techniques to overcome the disadvantages to being long: you can always teach techniques, but you can't teach height.
     
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    Midget with jon jones reach
     

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