Right, but only due to the fact that it took place in a movie...as in, there was a million takes to get the perfect shots.But we also don't believe Sylvester Stallone was a heavyweight boxing champion.
This begs the question...when did you start watching pro wrestling?No.....kayfabe is stupid
This begs the question...when did you start watching pro wrestling?
When I was a kid....I knew it wasn't real back then too, doesn't take more than one play fight with your cousin's on a trampoline to figure that out......I just liked the colourful characters and out there stories they were doing.This begs the question...when did you start watching pro wrestling?
I guess it's a bit different for some of us who at one point in our lives, typically as young children, didn't understand that pro wrestling wasn't real fighting.As someone who knew rasslin was fake before I ever saw my first episode I can say the reason was...well at first probably because my Great Grandmother seemed to be really excited about some fellow named Dusty elbowing people in the head. After that I continued to watch because it was neat and interesting...the same reason I continued to watch Yosemite Sam get blown up and crushed with anvils...it was entertaining and fun.
I was only 5 when I started my journey as a pro wrestling fan...I almost hate to admit this here, but I cried when Andre defeated Hogan on SNME. I believed it to be real...nothing implied otherwise.When I was a kid....I knew it wasn't real back then too, doesn't take more than one play fight with your cousin's on a trampoline to figure that out......I just liked the colourful characters and out there stories they were doing.
I guess it's a bit different for some of us who at one point in our lives, typically as young children, didn't understand that pro wrestling wasn't real fighting.
It's not your fault, and it's great that you enjoy pro wrestling, but living it as a child, and seeing what it's become, seems to have a different type of impact on myself, and anyone who at some point believed it to be the real deal.
I'm with you. BUT, it helps if you don't laugh at the product that you want me to buy into or rub the unreality of it in my face in your public life.Make me believe while I'm watching even though I don't actually believe it's real.
I'm with you. BUT, it helps if you don't laugh at the product that you want me to buy into or rub the unreality of it in my face in your public life.
Sorta the same way. My dad wrestled in college and so me and my brother grew up aware of the distinction between amateur and professional wrestling and had sort of a love/hate relationship with it. Pretty much hated the Hulk Hogans but loved the Bret Harts of the world. I liked the Steiners back in the day as well, especially because of the singlets and headgear.Despite never believing it was real...I have always enjoyed the guys who I could believe in as being real.
I’m not so sure. I don’t think we can go back exactly—the genie is out of the bottle. But like @D.R.H. said, it’s important to suspend fans’ disbelief. It should be presented as a shoot more, I think that’s always worked better. Wrestling is more over when it has believability. Social media and the internet has made it much harder to do that, but there’s still ways to use that to work the fans.I don't think that kayfabe would fit in today's times.
Wrestling was better during the golden era and attitude era, but it wouldn't work now.
Society has changed. Cheese is looked down upon and people judge eachother by what they watch more than ever. They want to feel intelligent.
Wrestling is lowbrow, just like B movies like Bloodsport are lowbrow and toilet humour being lowbrow. It doesn't make them less awesome, but I think that because people are holding themselves to a higher standard, they just don't get excited about this like they used to anymore.
It's a shame.
I’m not so sure. I don’t think we can go back exactly—the genie is out of the bottle. But like @D.R.H. said, it’s important to suspend fans’ disbelief. It should be presented as a shoot more, I think that’s always worked better. Wrestling is more over when it has believability. Social media and the internet has made it much harder to do that, but there’s still ways to use that to work the fans.
The Hulkamania era worked because it was presented as a shoot. And even in the Attitude Era, Austin-McMahon worked because it had believability based in reality. Same with the NWO angle. Suspending fans’ disbelief so that they can buy an angle as real is always better.
I’m not so sure. I don’t think we can go back exactly—the genie is out of the bottle. But like @D.R.H. said, it’s important to suspend fans’ disbelief. It should be presented as a shoot more, I think that’s always worked better. Wrestling is more over when it has believability. Social media and the internet has made it much harder to do that, but there’s still ways to use that to work the fans.
The Hulkamania era worked because it was presented as a shoot. And even in the Attitude Era, Austin-McMahon worked because it had believability based in reality. Same with the NWO angle. Suspending fans’ disbelief so that they can buy an angle as real is always better.
Sorta the same way. My dad wrestled in college and so me and my brother grew up aware of the distinction between amateur and professional wrestling and had sort of a love/hate relationship with it. Pretty much hated the Hulk Hogans but loved the Bret Harts of the world. I liked the Steiners back in the day as well, especially because of the singlets and headgear.
I'd love a stiffer, more intense and passionate product.
One of my pet peeves in wrestling is that one wrestler can diddle another's wrestlers mother, and that mother's son will come out all smiling and posing, before locking up and doing an armdrag to said diddler.
One of the best entrances in history was Austin V Angle, Summer down 2001. Angle came out intense, Austin came onto the entrance, eyes locked, they net in the aisle and fought. Real looking hatred.
Kayfabe? I'm disappointed by the lack of it sometimes, but the product needs to be top-tier first.