absolutely, he's a freak, I've said it a billion times, and now that he got kayoed people naturally play him down a bit but I've said all along that I've never seen anyone like him. Roy Jones, tell the truth, really wasn't any faster than many fighters, he certainly doesn't have manny's speed. but the thing which makes manny mind boggling at his best was the pace he could keep, he is gifted, but I always thought he had to be on an epo like drug to be that ferocious, his performance against delahoya was inhuman, imagine roy jones going up to heavyweight and consistently beating the best fighters (not John Ruiz) then we have an equivalent comparison in terms of the sheer physical feat manny pulled off. As for his intelligence, he's not to bright at all, he's got a good, reliable chin, he's proved that but he doesn't have a great chin. He isn't the kind of fighter who can try different things and adapt like Sugar Ray Leonard could, or any of the other greats but physically, I don't see how anyone can deny it, he's a superman.