Would You Call Jiri's Title Win A "Fluke?"

[deadshot138]

Pulled a sub out of his ass in a fight he was handily losing, forfeited the belt due to injury and hasn't been able to reclaim it. In fact, was getting pieced by Rakic before the finish. Totally a fluke that he got the belt, right? Kinda like a LHW Matt Serra situation.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Nah his toughness and cardio prevailed the more elite out of the two monsters.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Even if what you said was true, which parts of it are not...how is that anything like Matt Serra? Matt Serra didn't get lucky, he beat GSP's ass the entire fight.

 

[JustOnce]

That's an insane take. That win and the word 'fluke' doesn't belong in the same sentence.

 

[RockyLockridge]

No he beat glover easy. H was literally fucking around with him I honestly do believe this. Glover was in way more danger and took way more damage over the course of the fight.

 

[AmericanMMA]

Hell nah man. His title win was dope as fuck.

 

[Spath]

It was a good fight where both guys had to dig deep. Old man Glover brought it to Jiri, but Jiri lives and breaths dog fights. It got all messy, sloppy, violent and the younger, fresher warrior was able to get the W.

I wouldn’t consider it a fluke, no way. Both guys had their moments, both survived some terrible situations and in the end the better guy won.

 

[rjmbrd]

Jiri's style is to get clipped repeatedly in the course of looking to land his own big shot.

That works out fairly well against lower level talent like Reyes and Oezdemir, but you see its obvious shortcoming against ranked opponents.

We saw Glover get torched repeatedly when he was younger and more athletic fighting the elite - Rumble, Jones, Gus. Skill wise he was suitably ahead of Jiri and it showed, but he was over 40 years old and past due for retirement. Younger Glover would beat Jiri without a doubt.

If Jiri can't adjust his game to include appropriate defense, he's getting nowhere near a title again. He's also taking way too much damage unnecessarily which is a bad strategy.

 

[Tweak896]

Honestly watching it live I was thinking the whole fight was close, so I don't know why people act like it was Chael/Silva 1 last minute sub. Maybe the judges score cards, but it was a brutal back and forth the whole fight in my head.

 

[jx820]

I've never seen a fluke in MMA. I think "fluke" is an excuse.

If you train to do a thing, then do it, it's not a fluke. Tapping a guy you have in a choke you've drilled 1000 times isn't a fluke. Knocking out a guy you punched in the jaw or kicked in the head isn't a fluke.

Even Shogun's dislocaed elbow from a TD is something I saw in person as a wrestler. It's not an unexpected outcome. I was taught not to ever break a fall with a stiff arm because it's exactly what you'd expect.

 

[humdizzle]

no. he actually had a very legit record and won the fight by cardio (glover did well but gassed hard and made a mistake)

jamahall hill is a fluke.

 

[ninja boot]

Its a fight. A fluke could just as easily be called making the most of an opportunity.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Nah.. he had Glover hurt a lot of times in that fight.

 

[Mike]

Nah that's his whole ass style. I don't give a super amount of credit though because Glover is old. TBH I don't really put much stock into Jiri or Hill being "champions"

 

[World eater]

He went undefeated for like 8 years. That’s a lot of flukes. Also, what you consider a face, Jiri considers a shield. Built different and all that.

 

[GrantB13]

He tried something and it worked. A fluke is Blaydes' win over Aspinal where he won by not doing anything. Or if a fighter knocks themselves out on a takedown.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

No. But he could never beat a guy like Alex with his style of fighting. He uses his face a lot to block strikes until he finally wears on an opponent and wins via true grit.

 

[arcadeperfect]

No, he has a finishing rate that's almost 100%. A better case would be Leon landing that hail mary against Usman.

 

[Harlekin]

Even if what you said was true, which parts of it are not...how is that anything like Matt Serra? Matt Serra didn't get lucky, he beat GSP's ass the entire fight.

He hurt him leading to the finish after 3 minutes.
Serra was slightly ahead on points in a fight in which didn't happen much.

GSP in the Serra fight still has pretty mediocre striking for today's standards.
He was pre prime at 26. That GSP would get lit up on the fight against Usman, Leon, Belal.
Nearly 20 years ago, the sport improved. And GSP was a way better striker against Bisping.
Against Condit his striking still wasn't good for tday.

 

[Shoot Boxe Hero]

Jiri's style is to get clipped repeatedly in the course of looking to land his own big shot.

That works out fairly well against lower level talent like Reyes and Oezdemir, but you see its obvious shortcoming against ranked opponents.

We saw Glover get torched repeatedly when he was younger and more athletic fighting the elite - Rumble, Jones, Gus. Skill wise he was suitably ahead of Jiri and it showed, but he was over 40 years old and past due for retirement. Younger Glover would beat Jiri without a doubt.

If Jiri can't adjust his game to include appropriate defense, he's getting nowhere near a title again. He's also taking way too much damage unnecessarily which is a bad strategy.

What? Reyes, Rak, and Glover were all top 5 ranked opponents when Jiri fought them...

The only person to beat Jiri in the UFC is Periera and he has finished everyone else he has fought