Would Nate Diaz with D1 wrestling be the pound for pound #1?

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  1. KingBeef

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    Melvin did too.
     
  2. Aegon Spengler

    Aegon Spengler Gold Belt

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    He would be a very different fighter if he had top notch wrestling. His gas tank might change...who the hell knows. I don't think he could be as good as he is at striking and BJJ is he was also a D1 wrestler. You only have so much time in a day.
     
  3. somocjcsom

    somocjcsom Purple Belt

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    he already is.

    he owns the P4P belt and the McGregor belt.

    #NateBless
     
  4. josp1

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    Your ability to detect sarcasm is on par with your grammar.
     
  5. Rod Farva

    Rod Farva War Big Nog!

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    If it were that easy, maybe

    He doesn't have any power. His boxing lands in volume but he can't hurt anyone. He hit Cerrone about 263758292 times. Rory tore him up.

    He had really good JJ.

    It's not like he had an amazing record. His popularity exceeds his skill
     
  6. His BJJ isn't even that good. It's lazy and sloppy.

    If beating a guy on the ground that is two divisions lower than you makes you the best BJJ guy then what does that make Maia?
     
  7. SkillsPayTheBills

    SkillsPayTheBills Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Posts like this are so embaressingly cringe worthy stupid

    Conor hating newbs/Nate's pothead loser fantards, lack any ability to think criticially

    If you out class someone in 3 of 5 rounds but barely lose 2 rounds...does that still mean it was close because on scorecards it read 3-2...

    Fuck no

    If you actually watch the fight, and know what youre watching, you see that one fighter was clearly out classed the majority of the fight, and just barrly managed to win his rounds

    Fights arent scored in totality, ITS ROUND BY ROUND...and a fighter CAN win his rounds far BIGGER then an opponent won theirs

    That was essentially Conor vs Nate

    Conor absolutely dominated his rounds (1,2,4)

    Where as Nate barely won his 3rd round

    (watch that round again without Rogan's insanely biased commentary where he would orgasm over anything Nate did and ignore anything Conor did)

    Conor was actually controlling the first 3 to 4 minutes of round 3, out boxing Nate and landing the far cleaner better shots with superior countering..

    Nate then ends the round with a desperation flurry in which Conor was still deflecting, rolling, and dodging the vast majority of Nate's arm punches, while stepping off and countering - or while sneaking in wicked body shot interruptions which eventually gassed Nate out

    If Nate's round 3 was so "damaging" or "effective" then why was Conor able to TOOL Nate in round 4?

    Exactly

    It showed how Nate's round 3 was all smoke and mirrors..and not truly anything effective

    The much smaller Conor was playing rope a dope to conserve energy while countering...and yet the UNeducated Rogan was busting a nut to Nate's INeffective flurries while shitting on Conor.


    And then when you look at round 5

    Nate did nothing but try to squeek out a last second TD. Conor WON that round 5. Scored a TD of his own and laned the FAR BETTER SHOTS

    It was a 25 minute fight and Conor literally DOMINATED about 22 minutes of it

    Regardless of what score cards said, Conor OUT CLASSED Nate badly

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    ^thats what an out classing looks like

    A 195lb Nate was drpped 3 times by a 168lb FW Conor...LMAO

    Nate cant beat anyone his size. Conor beats much bigger opponents

    Look at Nate's badly disfigured face...while Conor's face was as clean and smooth as a baby's bottom

    If 3 knockdowns and a badly beaten up face isnt an out classing, then tell me what is

    then NO ONE else has ever been out classed in MMA history

    Conor TOOLED the fuck out of Nate


    It wasnt close at all...

    Cruz vs TJ wasnt that close at all either. Cruz clearly beat TJ

    Most "mma fans" just dont know what they are watching
     
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  8. Kelman

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    Oh Jesus. No he obviously wouldn't be.

    Nate is a bjj blackbelt, but he isn't on the Maia/Jacare level. He wouldn't be able to just devour every opponent in the division if he was a better wrestler.

    And other D1 wrestlers (who would have stellar TDD themselves) would still be able to exploit Nate's total lack of a kicking game and beat him that way anyway. Just like Thomson and RDA and Benson did, they could just keep slashing that front leg with kicks even if Nate was himself a D1 wrestler.

    No, he is not only wrestling ability away from being a p4p elite fighter like Aldo or Jones or Cruz. There is more to this game than that.
     
  9. funksoulbrother

    funksoulbrother I'm the guy that drinks the beer

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    Brock does have the chin of mark hunt
    Just not the pain tolerance
     
  10. SkillsPayTheBills

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    Yep

    Also, imgaine if Nate didnt have his zombie chin

    His chin is the the only thing that allowed him to hang with Conor (that and his size )

    Nate without his chin gets blown away by Conor 11/10 with complete ease

    Skill for skill Conor IS FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR SUPERIOR
     
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    At 155 Conor MURDERS Nate

    You will have a healthy, strong, super fast, best cardio Conor at 155


    while Nate at 155 now has to cut weight - therefore he will be dehydrated, meaning he wont have the fluid in his brain to cushion against Conor's clean sniper counters any longer
     
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    Oh, sorry. I really should have just posted the gif of him DESTROYING Conor with a basic 1-2
     
  13. ZuffaExecutive

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  14. trblesome1

    trblesome1 Silver Belt

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    Nate probably could have beaten a few more guys he lost to if he initiated some grappling

    Doesn't matter if his opponent is an undefeated pro boxer with 0 ground game, Nate is gonna stand and box until the other guy initiates grappling most times.

    Not the smartest fight strategy but Nate ain't no bitch
     

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