International Would Biden to go war with Russia if Ukraine was invaded?

[ViD]

Come back when russia starts actually training their people and dont spent a year building houses for generals.

This is not georgia

Russia’s military is three times more modern and better equipped than in 2008 when Georgia events happened. Most of the fighting troops are pros and not conscripts.

 

[ViD]

What's for sure is nobody knows what the F the Russians are up to.
Classic Russian maskirovka.
Could be nothing. Could be something.

It’s nothing unless Ukraine starts a full scale offensive in Donbass

 

[Boxingfan998]

Russia’s military is three times more modern and better equipped than in 2008 when Georgia events happened. Most of the fighting troops are pros and not conscripts.

Yeah to my knowledge the only US stuff the Ukrainian got was a bunch of anti-tank missiles (Javelins) and launchers.

 

[MicroBrew]

ROFL! Because they've never done that before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

Also, I remember this place called the U.S.S.R.

Crimea is 95% Russian speaking though, and used to be part of Russia. Ukraine is split between Ethnic Ukranian speakers in the West and Russian speakers in the East. West Ukranians aren't going to be ok with Russia taking over all of Ukraine.

 

[Cole train]

Ukraine has basically no Air Force nor modern anti airl

Russia’s military is three times more modern and better equipped than in 2008 when Georgia events happened. Most of the fighting troops are pros and not conscripts.

400 000 pros in russia.You cant use all so lets throw 100k maybe 150k

So it comes down to 150k pro plus air superiority versus 250k ukraines active personnel, plus 900k reservesThats quite an obstacle to go over even with air superiority

 

[grimballer]

this is just more western fearmongering

remember that all this ukrainian situation started when westerners backed the coup that got ukrainian democratically elected president ousted.

now they are aggressively trying to expand nato and put it on russian border even if they were told over and over again by russians thats a red line and russians usually mean it when they say it.

ukraine is a buffer zone between nato and russia whether they like it or not and any attempt at changing that would escalate things and lead to a potential conflict.

 

[ViD]

So it comes down to 150k pro plus air superiority versus 250k ukraines active personnel, plus 900k reserves

Thats quite an obstacle to go over even with air superiority

Yea, but you do know what happens once their vanguard is demolished, the fighting morale will be nullified and the resistance will be barely noticeable in Eastern Ukraine where Russia actually has decent support. I doubt that Russia would ever go to Western Ukraine

 

[Topguntrophey]

Maybe

 

[Boxingfan998]

this is just more western fearmongering

remember that all this ukrainian situation started when westerners backed the coup that got ukrainian democratically elected president ousted.

now they are aggressively trying to expand nato and put it on russian border even if they were told over and over again by russians thats a red line and russians usually mean it when they say it.

ukraine is a buffer zone between nato and russia whether they like it or not and any attempt at changing that would escalate things and lead to a potential conflict.

Damn good point.
It's easy to forget the history of this thing and where it built up from in 2014 (Ukrainian revolution & regime change), etc.
Still there's so much shit going on behind the scenes that we don't have a clue about.
Mainly the extent of US involvment in Ukraine behind the scenes.

 

[Cole train]

Yea, but you do know what happens once their vanguard is demolished, the fighting morale will be nullified and the resistance will be barely noticeable in Eastern Ukraine where Russia actually has decent support. I doubt that Russia would ever go to Western Ukraine

Guess we will see then if anything happens (probably wont)

 

[Boxingfan998]

400 000 pros in russia.You cant use all so lets throw 100k maybe 150k
So it comes down to 150k pro plus air superiority versus 250k ukraines active personnel, plus 900k reservesThats quite an obstacle to go over even with air superiority

Considering Ukrainian President is this clown.
I have a feeling he would disappear as fast as Karzai did in Afghanistan, were Russia to come in brutally.
Nor would Ukrainian Armed Forces be loyal to that government.
This matters a lot. People fight for shit like this.

 

[ViD]

Guess we will see then if anything happens (probably wont)

Nah, Putin is an opportunist not a lunatic, he knows this invasion hysteria is created as a proxy war against him, he won’t bite. NATO also ain’t that stupid to accept Ukraine in their alliance.

 

[Boxingfan998]

Nah, Putin is an opportunist not a lunatic, he knows this invasion hysteria is created as a proxy war against him, he won’t bite. NATO also ain’t that stupid to accept Ukraine in their alliance.

What if its not officially an invasion, and instead a bunch of "green men"?
Who says it would need to be a classic invasion?

 

[Videer]

No, Biden is not going to war over Ukraine though the funny thing is that deploying more than a handful of soldiers to eastern Ukraine would guarantee that no war would be taking place.

 

[fedoriswar37]

I mean , you Americans better fucking hope it never even comes to that. Biden is NOT the guy you at the head if that goes down.

 

[ViD]

Considering Ukrainian President is this clown.
I have a feeling he would disappear as fast as Karzai did in Afghanistan, were Russia to come in brutally.
Nor would Ukrainian Armed Forces be loyal to that government.
This matters a lot. People fight for shit like this.

Given the state of things in Ukraine right now, he is likely to be ousted before his term is done

 

[ViD]

What if its not officially an invasion, and instead a bunch of "green men"?
Who says it would need to be a classic invasion?

The green men won’t be enough right now, it will require the Air Force, Navy etc

 

[Boxingfan998]

So like some others have said, Biden has said NO to boots on the ground to confront Russians if they were to invade Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59582013
Said only "massive economic sanctions" would happen.

Sorry to sound like this, but I think Putin is laughing right now.

 

[grimballer]

Damn good point.
It's easy to forget the history of this thing and where it built up from in 2014 (Ukrainian revolution & regime change), etc.
Still there's so much shit going on behind the scenes that we don't have a clue about.
Mainly the extent of US involvment in Ukraine behind the scenes.

well theres also hunter (and joes) involvement in ukraine and lets not forget all this putin/russia demonization started when putin rein in russias oligarchs and limited their control of the country. the best example of this is bill browder. he pretty much single handedly change american policy/attitude towards russia. this just lets you know how much power these international investors/capitalists have. they pretty much are in charge of countries and their policies/politicians. of course theres also other elements in american politics like neocons and cold war era politicians whos dislike for russia/soviet union is pathological and will take any opportunity they can to go after russia.

 

[aerius]

Biden would go to bed. The handlers who feed him ice cream, change his adult diaper, and keep the teleprompter rolling would decide the course of action.

Going to war with Russia would be idiotic.

The war mongers,interventionists lost the plot after Afghanistan mess. After 20 years. Now they expect they would be to fight Russia?

This is why I think they'll do something that's just dumb enough to start a war. Maybe not deliberately, but they don't seem to have a good grasp of the actual situation and language that's been used so there's a decent chance they'll bumble their way into yet another war.