Social World Hijab Day.

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  1. trac209

    trac209 Brown Belt

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    Poster who doesn’t know what the thread title is here folks...I can pretty much bet there are hair salons in Muslim countries. That isn’t what is at debate here. But carry on with your outrage over my lol at a hair salon joke.
     
  2. MikeMcMann

    MikeMcMann Gold Belt

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    Choice can be conditioned however.

    There should be no doubt what the original intent of such religious garb is and that is control of women and their sexuality which is seen as evil or negative or dangerous.

    agree that luckier women living in the West have the freedom to choose it often or not without consequence but even often here in the West the social pressure and shaming is significant.

    We have to recognize it is a choice that often is accompanied with massive amounts of coercion and often forced on those with the least voice or ability to say no.

    For that reason I believe the West, and particularly liberals and feminism should stand with those who do not have a voice and ban such garb.
     
  3. m25105

    m25105 Brown Belt

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    This is the post you liked,
    anyone following the flow of conversation can see what triggered this spat between us. So yeah, tell us again about the difficulties of opening up a hair salon in a Muslim country.
     
  4. trac209

    trac209 Brown Belt

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  5. m25105

    m25105 Brown Belt

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    Yeah, I always hear that from Westerners, and funny enough, the women gets insulted when they hear it as well.

    https://theculturetrip.com/middle-e...-should-never-say-to-someone-wearing-a-hijab/
    https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/women-reveal-why-they-choose-to-wear-a-hijab
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iranian-women-hijab-protest-freedom_us_5a70db36e4b0be822ba12de2

    I know some of you guys have trouble understanding this, but there's something called faith and modesty, and some people prefer to dress that way.
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  6. BoxingFan653

    BoxingFan653 Did you just grab my ass?

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    LOL @ all these Islam apologists...there are millions of ex muslims that would like to have a word with you. Here's just a few to give you an example

    I especially love the guy who tells them when they left Islam they were no longer part of the family. LOL at the left separating church and state in the 90s and trying to introduce Islam in the 2000's.



     
  7. King Koopa

    King Koopa White Belt

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    Islam has ruined almost every country it’s been widely introduced to. Most of us with logic are well aware of this.

    Any white western woman who participates in the hijab day could try going to an Islamic shithole alone like perhaps Somalia and see what happens. I wouldn’t recommend it but there’s a good chance horribly savage and immoral things would happen to her before she was killed in the name of allah.
     
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  8. m25105

    m25105 Brown Belt

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    This thread is bringing all the fresh accounts out.
     
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  9. Pessimystic

    Pessimystic Asteroid Belt

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  10. MikeMcMann

    MikeMcMann Gold Belt

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    I understand faith and modesty and it changes nothing I said.
     
  11. trac209

    trac209 Brown Belt

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    Give it a rest already, if you want women to have to wear this shit that’s your issue. As posted above many formers would love to tell you how ridiculous you sound.
     
  12. MikeMcMann

    MikeMcMann Gold Belt

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    WTF? No you give it a rest. I will keep talking. And if you want me to post videos of how many saying its abusive just let me know how many if you think that makes the point and how ridiculous you are being.
     
  13. trac209

    trac209 Brown Belt

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    I think I quoted the wrong post my bad. I have no idea what side you’re on from what you’re saying here
     
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  14. badascan

    badascan Pugnacious Audacious Moral Nihilist Platinum Member

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    the insanity that 3rd wave feminists promote the hijab as some kind of liberating symbol is just another example of how misguided they are...
     
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  15. WhitebeltXL

    WhitebeltXL Black Belt

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    And what kind of society tells women they need to cover their hair, and even faces/skin in order to be modest? Women from Muslim backgrounds didn’t just evolve the belief that covering themselves is modest, it’s societally reinforced and demanded of them.

    I’ve asked friends of mine that are Muslim women why they wear the hijab/niqab and it’s almost unanimously because it’s makes them feel closer to Allah. How is it not religiously based coercion to tell women that to forge a proper relationship with their supreme being (Allah), something seen incredibly important in Islam, they need to cover themselves up in the name of modesty and decency?

    Why aren’t the men asked to cover themselves up in the name of modesty and decency to “feel closer to Allah”? It’s religiously reinforced inequality that treats women as second class citizens and done to suppress female sexuality (similar to another practice committed unto Muslim women by a large percentage called FGM) , and to describe it any other way is backwards.

    I have no problem women wearing the hijab in the west, but I certainly have a problem with people trying to portray it as empowering or modest.
     
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  16. Stranger Come Knocking

    Stranger Come Knocking Black Belt

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    I don't want my 5 year old daughter seeing knockers falling out of shirts all over the place and asses hanging out the back of shorts. I just have to deal with it.
     
  17. evansusmc2

    evansusmc2 Black Belt

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    It’s actually about whether women, who were born into that mess, would be unharmed if they decided one day to ditch the hijab. Pretty sure anyone who’s been to a majority Islamic country knows the answer.
     
  18. S Class

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    World Hijab Day.......... LMFAO

    These so-called "feminists" aren't helping their fellow women with this.
     
  19. squeezewax

    squeezewax Brown Belt

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    "Let's go and ask some covered muslim women if they're force to cover up shall we?"
    "Excuse me, are you forced to wear a hijab/burka each day?"

    "No"

    "Well there you have it ladies and gentlemen, it's official, women covering up in islam is strictly by choice, you just can't argue with that."

    I've seen tv reporter do that type of thing, what do they expect these women to say? "Oh help me, please help me!" "I've been forced to cover up since i was 6 yrs old and i hate it."

    These people should talk to female ex-muslims, but of course those women wouldn't give the 'right' answers, would they?

    I recommend people go read[or listen on audiobook via youtube] some Ayaan Hirsi Ali books or watch/listen to some videos of her talks.
     
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  20. meauneau

    meauneau Brown Belt

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    The only reason Muslims wear the hijab today is because of Mohammed's jealousy. I think it was Abu Bakar who told him he saw one of Mohammed's wives peeing, or something like that, and the next day Mohammed, aka Allah, came up with this new revelation about women covering up.

    As a man I understand why this was easily accepted and reinforced. Men are naturally jealous about their wives and hate to think that other men check their wives out.
     

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