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  1. slayer36

    slayer36 Blue Belt

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    ok, so you are only supposed to weightlift for up to 45 minutes at a time.


    what if you wanted to incorporate skill, strength, and conditioning in one workout.

    like lets say i wanted to do some pad work, lift some push muscles, and then do some conditioning?

    do i have to get this in within 45 minutes, or because there is skill conditioning work it can be longer?


    like for instance could you:
    skill train for 25 minutes
    lift for 30 minutes
    run/condition 15 minutes

    for a total of 70 minutes.

    basically, does this 45 minute window apply to just weightlifting or all forms of training?
     
  2. Fedorable

    Fedorable Continues without supporting Sherdog.

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    wow, i never heard of this. Where did you get that stat from?
     
  3. wenispinkle

    wenispinkle Skankin' It Easy...

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    dude dont worry about how long your workouts are going.....get what you need to get done and get the right nutrition to deal with it....you will know if you are overtraining......

    the only exception is cardio work....in which if you go too long you will begin to burn muscle (this time is about 40 minutes for most people, before you ask)....which is why so many prefer HIIT (high intensity interval training, before you ask) over 30 minute jogging/swimming sessions, because you can cram lots of high intensity work into a relatively short time and get more out of it then long endurance type workouts
     
  4. slayer36

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    i know after weight training cortisol levels rise after 45 minutes.
    should you just be concerned with this in terms of bodybuilding, or for what i am trying to accomplish too?
     
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    You're overthinking it imo. I personally wouldn't go longer than an hour. But then I think I get everything I need to do done in that space of time.
     
  7. Plum

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    Who said you shouldn't workout longer than 45 mins?

    I try to keep my workouts to 1h 15 mins. But often I'll run to 1h 30 mins.

    A very good book I read, said for hypertrophy training you can lift for up to 2 hours. Lots of old school bb'ers used to train for hours and hours, not that this is optimal however.

    What are you trying to accomplish btw? And what the hell do you mean when you say 'skill' training?
     
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    Richard Emling Black Belt Professional Fighter

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    pre fight i train twice a day 3 hours each
     
  9. cumminstx

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    I bust it for about 2 hours. I think you should just listen to your body by the way its feels. I go till I cant do no more, then I make sure I get plenty of protein.
     
  10. slayer36

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    lol, how the hell do you not know what "skill training" means?
    skill training = pad work, heav bag work, i dont know how else to describe "skill training"

    i am trying to get in skill work, stength work, and conditioning work. i have found that with my busy schedule i need at least a day to recover between workouts. there arent enough days in the week to get in what i want to do, so i am trying to optimize my workouts.
     
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    double post
     
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    You could always split it up so that you do your "skill" and your strength training at the gym then at home do your cardio later in the evening or something. I don't think it's really that big of a deal though. Just do your workout.
     
  13. silent_circus

    silent_circus bas rutten... respect.

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    My weight lifting workouts typically last an hour.
     
  14. Plum

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    I figured that's what you meant, I just wanted to be sure.

    But no, I would split skill/weight training up if I were you and had the time.
     
  15. ouboxer

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    Before a fight i had i used to do all three just like your doing in one session. I used to spar about 6 rounds and hit pads, weight train, then run 400's at the end. It took 2-3 hours allowing for some rest and bs time between. If your doing all three in one session just make sure you are fully rested before you go into it.theres no reason you have to fit it all into 45 minutes that would be really difficult.
     
  16. CrazyAZNRedneck

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    You're only supposed to go 1:15-1:30 without eating. I sometimes sit in the gym all day taking 15 minutes out to eat protein powder like a cement mixer. I've neer heard of this 45 minute shit, I think that's just gym science (guys at the gym who only have time to lift for 45 minutes, so they make it a "rule," then other people buy into it).
     
  17. slayer36

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    it is not "gym science." i have read it in numerous articles/books/journals/studies. (in terms of weightlifting)

    i have come to the conclusion that 45 minutes is ideal, but i am not under ideal condiitons, and my routine needs to be based more on recovery with my schedule.

    what im going to do is devote as much time as i need to skill training, then weightlifting followed be either swimming or tabata sprints.

    my lifts will be based around 3 core excercises on each day, and if i have more time to get more in then i will, if not, screw it.

    for instance ill do pad work for like 20-30 minutes. then my 3 core excercises could be bench, oh press, and weighted dips. if i have more time, ill do some supplementary excercises, and follow this up with cardio.
    if id could this 3-4 days a week, i would be happy.

    so an average week would look like this:

    mon: pad work
    bench, oh press, dips
    tabata sprints

    wed: heavy bag, speed bag
    core work, legs
    swimming

    fri:
    pad work
    weight pulls, rows, hammer curls
    tabat sprints

    and then switch things up weekly
     
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    The 45 minutes thing doesn't seem to make sense to me, which articles did you read it in? If you do a 5 x 5 scheme and take two minutes inbetween, that is already 15 minutes at the least one by. Then take two minutes to rest before your next exercise and you are already going to be over 45 minutes into your third exercise.
     

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