Woodley's vs. GSP's best wins and common opponents

[MMAart]

There has been a number of debates about who is the better WW champ, between Woodley and GSP. Understandably so, the answers tend to come down to "which fighter do I like better" instead of "which fighter is objectively better, based on the strength of their opponents."

I will try to open up this discussion with a more objective comparison of both of these fighters' best wins and common opponents, as well as their losses:

Woodley's vs. GSP's best wins who have fought each other

1. Gastelum vs. Bisping

2. Thompson vs. Hendricks

3. Maia vs. Shields

4. Lawler vs. Diaz

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Best Wins who have NOT fought against each other​

Till, Daley, Saffeidine ........vs....... Alvez, BJ Penn, Hughes​

Common opponents​

1. Shields .......... Woodley (Loss, SD)...... GSP (Win, UD)
2. Condit ........... Woodley (Win, KO)........ GSP (Win, UD)
3. Koscheck ..... Woodley (Win, KO)........ GSP (Win, UD)

Losses

Woodley's

1. Marquardt (KO) ......... for the vacant Strikeforce WW title
2. Shields (SD) .............. UFC WW bout
   
3. MacDonald (UD) ........ UFC WW bout

GSP's

1. Hughes (armbar) ....... for the vacant UFC WW title
2. Serra (KO) ................. lost the UFC WW title

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What are your thoughts on the comparisons? Are they fair and objective?​

 

[BoD 2.0]

GSPs best wins are:

1. Hughes 2/3
2. Shields
3. Fitch
4. Alves
5. Hendricks
6. Penn 1
7. Penn 2
8. Bisping
9. Condit
10. Diaz

 

[ROIDZ]

Different era so people will have short memory's. If Gsp actually steps up and fights Twood it would be epic so these threads can stop.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

We all know the “you’re only as good as your last fight” trope. But man, the Woodley GOAT praise since Sat has been an exceptionally strong example.

Longevity has always been a strong criteria for all time greats. Woodley may very well catch up to Hughes and GSP, in time.

He is obviously a great fighter.

 

[Deleted member 549255]

You left out Josh Koscheck for their common opponents.

Woodley (1st round KO)

GSP (UD 2X)

 

[MMAart]

You left out Josh Koscheck for their common opponents.

Woodley (1st round KO)

GSP (UD 2X)

Thanks, will update that.

 

[RoyJonesJr]

GSP has the better legacy

But a match up between the two prime 4 prime would be close

 

[JosephTessaro]

There has been a number of debates about who is the better WW champ, between Woodley and GSP. Understandably so, the answers tend to come down to "which fighter do I like better" instead of "which fighter is objectively better, based on the strength of their opponents."

I will try to open up this discussion with a more objective comparison of both of these fighters' best wins and common opponents, as well as their losses:

Woodley's vs. GSP's best wins who have fought each other

1. Gastelum vs. Bisping

2. Thompson vs. Hendricks

3. Maia vs. Shields

4. Lawler vs. Diaz

​

Best Wins who have NOT fought against each other​

Till, Daley, Saffeidine ........vs....... Alvez, BJ Penn, Hughes​

Common opponents​

1. Shields .......... Woodley (Loss, SD)...... GSP (Win, UD)
2. Condit ........... Woodley (Win, KO)........ GSP (Win, UD)
3. Koscheck ..... Woodley (Win, KO)........ GSP (Win, UD)

Losses

Woodley's

1. Marquardt (KO) ......... for the vacant Strikeforce WW title
2. Shields (SD) .............. UFC WW bout
   
3. MacDonald (UD) ........ UFC WW bout

GSP's

1. Hughes (armbar) ....... for the vacant UFC WW title
2. Serra (KO) ................. lost the UFC WW title

_______________________________________​

What are your thoughts on the comparisons? Are they fair and objective?​

GSP also revenged his 2 losses...Hughes by TKO and submission, and to Serra by TKO. GSP is, at least right now, the better WW.

 

[QcChopper]

People don't usually regard Sean Sherk as one of GSP's notable wins, but he had, at the time he fought GSP, a record of 31-1-1, his only loss being a competitive 5 round decision to Matt Hughes, he is easily as good a win as any of Woodley's.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Gsp had about 33 rounds where he never lost a round. Woodley has not been as dominant.

 

[Dirge]

You left out Josh Koscheck for their common opponents.

Woodley (1st round KO)

GSP (UD 2X)

Kos was 2-2 going into his fight with Woodley and had been ko'd earlier that year. He also went on to lose 3 more after that

GSP beat kos twice in his prime

 

[Dirge]

People don't usually regard Sean Sherk as one of GSP's notable wins, but he had, at the time he fought GSP, a record of 31-1-1, his only loss being a competitive 5 round decision to Matt Hughes, he is easily as good a win as any of Woodley's.

And if sherk were fighting today it would be at 145

 

[HaulParris]

Kos was 2-2 going into his fight with Woodley and had been ko'd earlier that year. He also went on to lose 3 more after that

GSP beat kos twice in his prime

I think that GSP actually broke Kos (along with his orbital) in their rematch. Kos was never the same after the fight.

 

[ThunderStruck]

People don't usually regard Sean Sherk as one of GSP's notable wins, but he had, at the time he fought GSP, a record of 31-1-1, his only loss being a competitive 5 round decision to Matt Hughes, he is easily as good a win as any of Woodley's.

And he was heavier than GSP for that fight.

 

[ThunderStruck]

And if sherk were fighting today it would be at 145

Bull fucking shit.

 

[Workaholic]

And if sherk were fighting today it would be at 145

 

[toronto1994]

Jake Shields used to make great fighters look terrible. Georges won that fight.

 

[Drugstore Cowboy]

GSP's resume is outstanding. The best ever.

Remember, all these fights are title fights scheduled on 5 rounds. That means tougher camp, pressure, media obligations and all of that.

And all these killers in their primes were coming one after the other.

Not like in Fedor's case: top opponent, few cans, top opponent, few cans, etc.

It's harder to stay undefeated for many years challenging the best all the time.

 

[Dirge]

Sherk is the same size as Edgar except more muscle mass

If you don't think a 5'6" fighter could make 145 easily (like Frankie for example) then you are clueless

Sherk didn't cut to make 170

 

[Dirge]

Bull fucking shit.

Clearly you haven't seen any of sherks fights

The guy was tiny , same height as Frankie just more heavily muscled

5'6" is actually short for thst weight class