WMMA is literally WNBA

And she's still the biggest star in the sport!! Says a lot about the state of MMA.

actually she really isn't that big a star. I was watching the card last night and my friends were asking about Holm "isn't that the girl who knocked out that one girl was supposed to be good?" and I let them know she KO'ed Ronda and now shes 190 lbs. and quit MMA since they started drug testing.
 
Is this goof really calling Ronda MMA's biggest star? lmao
 
actually she really isn't that big a star. I was watching the card last night and my friends were asking about Holm "isn't that the girl who knocked out that one girl was supposed to be good?" and I let them know she KO'ed Ronda and now shes 190 lbs. and quit MMA since they started drug testing.
Actually she's fought since drug testing has been implemented, if I didn't know any better I'd think you only tuned in for McGregor & Rousey fights. CASUAL SPOTTED!!!!! Rousey was on SNL & Ellen, McGregor has to beg to be on Conan.
 
Alright. Here we go. Differences between women's divisions in MMA and WNBA, as well as other thoughts.

• One is basketball, one is MMA. I don't like basketball that much. If I absolutely loved it, I probably still wouldn't watch the WNBA, because it doesn't have the exposure necessary to make it feel of consequence, and it's inconvenient to follow two different leagues of the same sport. Not to mention, WNBA operates by different rules.

• MMA fans are used to fighters being separated for fairness already. It's ingrained in the sport. What MMA fans care about is relative ability. They don't care that Cain could squash Mighty Mouse anymore than they should care that Cain would squash Ronda. There's no distinction between separating by weight and separating by gender. If you can appreciate multiple weight divisions, you can appreciate divisions filtered by sex. They're both done for roughly the same purpose. If you can't, then that's on you and you probably have some compartmentalization you need to clear out in your mind.

• Never have I ever watched a woman's fight and said "Wow, she did great... but Dominick Cruz would totally clean her clock." That never enters my mind, because I'm not an idiot. It's as dumb and arbitrary a statement as saying Brock Lesnar would destroy Jose Aldo. Who cares? The only reason you would even bring that up is some weird insecurity.

• Women are generally speaking more flexible than men, and are disproportionately stronger in their lower body compared to what you see in men's upper/lower body strength. This lends itself to a more active transition game on the ground. Women typically have to escape submissions more by technique than powering through with their upper body, as many men do. Not saying one is necessarily better than another, but it is unique and intriguing for that reason. I also suspect that because of women's lower body being so strong relative to their upper body, that you will see more head kick finishes as fighters evolve over time, once the technical skill catches up.

• If you accept the distinction of male/female divisions as the same as weight divisions (which you should), then the only fair criticism that can be made is skill level. Putting athleticism aside -- as athleticism always varies from divisions to division, and fighter to fighter -- it's the skill difference between the male/female divisions that people complain about the most. Well, a couple of things here:

1) Everyone knows that Heavyweight has been a lacking in technical ability for quite a long time. Some fighters have it together, but it's a far way away from being a work of art up there.​

2) Yes, generally speaking from a technical perspective the women's divisions are noticeably behind the men's divisions. Not a shocker. There are less women choosing to be fighters and less financial outlets to compete as a female. The only way to change that is to provide better financial incentive and encourage women to train MMA. Having the women's divisions in the UFC does just that. It's only going to get better over time. Just wait until the Rousey generation of little girls -- who are already training -- arrive. The divisions are going to get better, and it's going to be fun to watch it evolve.
• If there were no women's divisions in the UFC, those roster spots would go to unranked fighters you've never heard of fighting in fights of no consequence (you know, those fight pass prelim fighters that you're already not watching unless it's on a card for a fight you DO want to watch). Finding out who the best women in the WORLD are in their respective divisions is infinitely more interesting than watching better skilled men's fights that are of no consequence. I guarantee you there are better fighters that are unranked and fighting fights of no consequence at welterweight than most the fighters ranked in the top 15 at heavyweight, but you're probably not watching those fights for the same reason -- they don't have any weight to them. You'd rather watch the ranked HW fights because you believe in the concept of weight divisions and parity, and you care about relativity. So, why do you accept relativity for weight divisions but ignore relativity when it comes to gender divisions?
 
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Is this goof really calling Ronda MMA's biggest star? lmao
she was at her peak. As brief as that was. Even now, the only people who would draw as much are Conor and Brock.

How does it feel knowing that Stipe v Overeem wont even do half the numbers of Ronda v Bethe?
 
Your striking can look fucking amazing if you are hitting a bag or against someone who has zero striking ability.
So you think Holm or Shevchenko have zero striking ability? You, my friend, need to start following another sport.
 
Actually she's fought since drug testing has been implemented, if I didn't know any better I'd think you only tuned in for McGregor & Rousey fights. CASUAL SPOTTED!!!!! Rousey was on SNL & Ellen, McGregor has to beg to be on Conan.

The person raving about Ronda is calling someone else casual haha
 
Does OP know what literally means? WMMA isn't a bunch of horsefaced chicks playing basketball in an empty arena.
 
WNBA is a slower , less athletic, less explosive version of the nba. Like WMMA , WNBA is basically subsidized by the nba as it's basically a loss to operate WNBA even with their paltry salaries. The only real difference is mma fans are forced to ingest WMMA as it gets placed on the cards so there is no way to truly vote won your wallet. Imagine if nba playoffs had a quarter of WNBA game mixed in during half time, there would be outrage.

Does WNBA have good fundamentals like WMMA ? Sure they are good at shooting and passing, just like in WMMA you can find good fundamental strikers and ground artists, but as WNBA has a lot of solid guards they lack any type of explosive, entertaining a level athlete like Lebron or Westbrook or curry. Similar to how WMMA has nothing comparable to a rumble Johnson or black beast, just a bunch of pitty pat volume strikers equivalent to a good WNBA guard with some flashy spin moves .

WMMA is also showing, like WNBA , how there is no depth and minimal skill differential from top to bottom. Everyone is .500 or slightly better and we will likely continue to see round robin of champions except in the lower weight class with zero depth.

Another similarity is the fans , WNBA fans are girls, dads with girls who like basketball, creeps who only follow the attractive players, and a small amount of hardcore fans who will watch literally any basketball. WMMA differs here a bit in that the quantity of creeps is much higher as the chances for pics and gifs of near nude athletes is higher, same concept as why beach volleyball gets high ratings in the olympics. After every event and weigh in you will see every time the highest rated gifs are shots and wardrobe issues, quite odd really with how easily you can access porn these days.

Cliffs: Poster needs black man meat to be entertained.
 
Lol at ronda being the biggest star in MMA. Her fatass is on the sidelines.
And she's still the biggest star!! Perhaps if Mcgregor is lucky then Rousey will give him some publicity the next time she's on Ellen. Don't be jelly.
 
Rousey's popularity and dominance just proves how bad WMMA is. A man with her skill set and fighting style would get nowhere.
 
I would much prefer the UFC run an all WMMA PPV every three months so I could skip it - then everyone gets what they want.
 
WNBA is a slower , less athletic, less explosive version of the nba. Like WMMA , WNBA is basically subsidized by the nba as it's basically a loss to operate WNBA even with their paltry salaries. The only real difference is mma fans are forced to ingest WMMA as it gets placed on the cards so there is no way to truly vote won your wallet.


You're forgetting a giant difference. People actually care about WMMA. Nobody gives a fuck about women's basketball.


Imagine if nba playoffs had a quarter of WNBA game mixed in during half time, there would be outrage.


Imagine if the NBA signed a celebrity with no basketball background to play.
 
Yeah, its filth.

Unlike other sports though, you get forced to sit through. Nobody chooses to sit through a womens football match but if you wanna watch a UFC card, you need to accept that you're gonna be forced to sit through a womens fight at some point.

I skipped this card, I just watched the highlights. Only 3 fights on the entire card I had any interest in, Id rather save 3hrs of my day and read the play by play.
 
You're forgetting a giant difference. People actually care about WMMA. Nobody gives a fuck about women's basketball.





Imagine if the NBA signed a celebrity with no basketball background to play.

Nobody cares about WMMA they watch because they are lonely basement virgins and get to see average looking women they can defend on the Internet with flashes of ass at weigh ins . If people truly cared their would be more threads about their skills than their physical assets. The most popular gif from this las event was Holms ass during weigh ins , case closed
 
And she's still the biggest star!! Perhaps if Mcgregor is lucky then Rousey will give him some publicity the next time she's on Ellen. Don't be jelly.
Lol at a lesbian talk show. We'll see what sort of numbers she draws if she ever comes back.
 
not a fan of these lazy comparisons between combat sport and ballgames. 2 completely different types of contests IMO. I can respect and admire female fighters, I don't care much about women shooting 3's. I prefer men's basketball because the athletes are better and it's more fun to watch, but a fight is a fight, it's got nothing to do with basketball. Nothing.

When you were in high school, if 2 guys were gonna fight after class you would stay and watch. If 2 girls were gonna fight, same thing, you wouldn't miss it. Basketball has nothing to do with it.
 
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