Will wrestling always be the best base for MMA?

[Kvolcom]

HW---miocic(wrestling)
LHW---cormier and jones(wrestling)
MW---romero wrestling
WW-Woodley Wrestling
LW-Khabib wrestling
BW- TJ wrestling
FW- DJ wrestling


The #1 guy imo for each division is a wrestler other than Max and I look forward to the Edgar Max fight. Max has never fought a wrestler as talented as Edgar and has been out-wrestled by conor. we shall see...


Do you think it will always be the best base for MMA?

 

[Carvaso]

Being able to dictate where the fight takes place will always be a tremendous advantage.

 

[joeyjoejoe]

Yeah it’s hard to argue with results.

 

[JayJayFrench]

Yes. And Whitney Houston will always love you.

 

[welcometohavoc]

BJJ>Wrestling imo

The best wrestlers in MMA have always usually used another base alongside wrestling (boxing/BJJ) whereas BJJ guys have actually done decent with just BJJ (Maia, Bustamante, etc)

 

[Rum]

MW---romero wrestling

The MIDDLEWEIGHT KING laughs heartily at your impotent trolling.

 

[Lovestorm]

Until we have Pride Ground Game rules, the wrestler will always have the huggathon advantage, but when we can knee to the head of the grounded opponent, the dominant wrestler will have another advantage for his style.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Lesnar - former heavyweight champ
Bobby Lashley - dominating bellator
CM Punk - definite contender
Floyd Mayweather Jr. - punched out the big show and conor
Sean O'Haire - 4/2 mma, dead.

Wrestling is best for sure

 

[Kvolcom]

BJJ>Wrestling imo

The best wrestlers in MMA have always usually used another base alongside wrestling (boxing/BJJ) whereas BJJ guys have actually done decent with just BJJ (Maia, Bustamante, etc)

BJJ is the worst lol I've seen sooo many BJJ guys fail over and over....the rare exceptions are the Maia, werdum...these are rare

 

[welcometohavoc]

BJJ is the worst lol I've seen sooo many BJJ guys fail over and over....the rare exceptions are the Maia, werdum...these are rare

Because the BJJ guys are going up against guys who have also trained BJJ and have more tools.

If you break down disciplines, BJJ is still superior to wrestling because it has techniques to finish an opponent. That's why back in the day we saw wrestlers take guys down and not know what to do with them. It wasn't until wrestlers started learning boxing, BJJ, GnP that they started winning alot

 

[Rum]

GOATS

GSP - Karate
Aldo - BJJ
Anderson - Muay Thai
Jones - Wrestling
Fedor - Being a God

 

[Liquid Smoke]

After reading the OP, it sure does look that way.

Controlling where the fight goes will always be a huge advantage because it can be used to negate a positional advantage. You have to be dangerous in all positions to have a lack of wrestling not hurt you.

 

[Kvolcom]

GOATS

GSP - Karate
Aldo - BJJ
Anderson - Muay Thai
Jones - Wrestling
Fedor - Being a God

fair point, but GSP won because he had great wrestling. Aldo won bc he had great defensive wrestling....silva and fedor are the lone examples, also fought in the weakest divisions tho and fought very few wrestlers

 

[ArtemV]

Whittaker will beat Romero again imo. But sure, it helps for sure.

 

[Rum]

After reading the OP ...

Hmmm, I think I'm starting to see where it all went wrong for you buddy.

 

[Davey Crockett]

The answer is always Capoeira

 

[007]

of course

 

[Rum]

fair point, but GSP won because he had great wrestling. Aldo won bc he had great defensive wrestling....silva and fedor are the lone examples, also fought in the weakest divisions tho and fought very few wrestlers

Of course GSP and Aldo won because they had great wrestling, but that pretty much craps on your point even more. Even without a wrestling base those two guys were able to dominate deep, wrestler-rich divisions.

Then again, you can make the argument that the reason the deepest divisions had so many wrestlers for those two legends to beat is precisely that wrestling is a great base for MMA, so ... y'know ... it's pretty dang good for sure.

 

[Polish Machine]

Until we have Pride Ground Game rules, the wrestler will always have the huggathon advantage, but when we can knee to the head of the grounded opponent, the dominant wrestler will have another advantage for his style.

Wrestlers in Pride would get kneed to the head during takedown attempts. Wrestlers now can hold onto fighters with while kneeling and their opponents have minimal options.

 

[Draxton]

The MIDDLEWEIGHT KING laughs heartily at your impotent trolling.