Drew Foster
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When you see what "brabo" means in portuguese, I'd tend to agree with you
When you see what "brabo" means in portuguese, I'd tend to agree with you
How so? What is your opinion about the brabo/darce?
The brabo takes a decent amount of pressure to finish because your opponent has a lot of leverage in his arm especially if you don't get it in the right position in the setup.
To me the brabo choke requires strength unless you have long arms and it requires a bit of force to get it in deep if your opponent knows its coming. A lot of the times it turns out being a crank because it's not deep enough or whatever.
Like another poster mentioned Brabo means angry or aggressive.
Personally, I want to see more North-South chokes in MMA.
No thanks man, I already have more names and nick names than anyone would ever want:
Andrew, Drew, Foster, White Mike, Miguel Blanco, Rudy, Toby Dynamite, Remo, Burke (my middle name), Ang, Womby, and the list actually goes on. I swear I'm the only person where when I introduce myself to people, I have to pause and decide what to introduce myself as, depending on who is around me and who I'm talking to. In some circles, it would be dumb as hell to call myself White Mike. In others, I've had checks mailed to "Mike Foster" because people thought Mike was my real name. I've been White Mike since 2002 to most people. Go figure....
(I would actually like to change my name on Sherdog to White Mike, but I don't think you can change names here.)
Personally, I want to see more North-South chokes in MMA.
Well Padlock changed his name to Poppa Rotzee, so it can be done. I'm not sure how though. Where does "White Mike" come from? That white drug dealer from Season 2 of The Wire?
Definitely, I see it all the time, wide open. I have begun to use the N/S tons in my own training, people sometimes forget it is there. They are more worried about their arms or you moving into side or mount.
Fair enough, it just always seems so smooth when applied when I've seen them. Guys put it on, opponents dont feel the danger, and next thing you know they are sleeping.
Yes it's true in MMA most of ones we have seen have been very quick. The reason for this is because in MMA a lot of people use the underhook escape to get up and often they are able to scramble up but often you give up the brabo choke, it is also usually slippery so the arms slide in and they are used to protecting their head, a good example of this is Paulo Thiago vs Mike Swick.
Brabo chokes often don't feel like they are choking when they actually are so a lot of people go out it.
In reality though especially in gi, if you are setting up a Brabo choke it's a real bitch especially if you don't have long and strong arms.
Me too. Whenever Jeff Monson or Rani Yahya fights I feel like I might see one though.
Rani is always pulling out badass chokes when he fights.
(Frank Mir is a funny announcer!)
What direction is Frank Mir saying he should turn? Towards Yahya's elbow or towards his stomach?
Darce for small necks? I have had this issue...Have not tried this though.
You want your grip (mata leao style) to be as deep as possible (wrist deep), but one of the more common mistakes I encounter when teaching the darce is actually students reaching their choking arm too deep... to the point where the blade of their forearm is no longer on the Carotid Artery and is instead on the back of the neck/spine; this actually creates space for the carotid to continue flowing and puts pressure that belongs on the artery on the spine turning it into a neck crank... one of the more common reasons people tend to crank the neck with a darce is going "too deep".
For a perfect darce you want to lock it "WRIST DEEP" with your locking elbow literally pulling the guys head in, and the boniest part of your forearm flush across the soft tissue in the neck surrounding the carotid artery. From here you can use pressure to put an opponent to sleep very quickly, and there are further details to make it even faster. One being the way Paulo Thaigo "Twisted" the locked Darce.
When I say "twist" I don't mean disregard pressure and crank. Use all the same pressure and squeeze you normally would with a locked Darce, then use your "locking" elbow to pull your opponents head in as you twist your choking forearm into his neck like and upside down "Paper cutter". Add this to any tight darce for a quicker tap. I generally look for the mounted version displayed by Ryan Hall in this thread, combine that with a twist and it's game over for anyone. I'd even go as far as to say that once I get that position with a tight locked darce I don't think anyone could escape it.
From that angle he should try to put his left ear on the mat. By turning his head to the right, he's putting himself in deeper water. In all honesty, no matter which way he turned, he is wide open for a super tight elbow lift Guillotine choke, and Rani is a choke master and would have finished with something regardless of any escape attempt.
don't do it like that. his angle is off, and a good opponent will get out. He's basically showing a variation on the "Twist" i mentioned in a couple other threads, but he's showing it in a way that leaves you completely vulnerable to counters. Maybe I'll get a video up on Advanced darce finishing for everyone to show what I'm talking about. In the mean time here's my other posts:
the N/S angle is really bad for this technique
That's the way I assumed you would escape the choke but technically that is turning away from the choke is it not? For a RNC when they say you turn into it look at the elbow but in this case you would not want to look at the bicep.