Will the Anti-Communist High Profile Fighters be silenced moving forward?

[JJCc]

Communism in Russia ended in 1991.
The communist party has not been in power since.
Why you try and use China to prove Russia is communistic, I dont know...
The party that runs Russia is United Russia..
The party that runs China is.... Chinese Communist Party

I am sorry school failed you.

United Russia basically still cult follows Lenin and Stalin, and they rarely ever disagree with Russia's second biggest party which has the name communism in their party.

United Russia is communism. Putin runs Russia exactly like a communist country.

 

[DaRivv20]

The UFC is the most capitalist entity in MMA to the point of comedy. Dana is a Trumper and has been for years. They’re going to be fine. Leave this red scare paranoia behind big communist isn’t going to silence anyone outside their jurisdiction.

 

[Klaavical]

United Russia basically still cult follows Lenin and Stalin, and they rarely ever disagree with Russia's second biggest party which has the name communism in their party.

United Russia is communism. Putin runs Russia exactly like a communist country.

 

[Straatblaffer]

Talk is cheap, if you really wanted to stick it to the communists, you wouldn't buy anything made in China. You should also refuse to support fighters with ties to China and Russia, and boycott the UFC if they do events in communist countries like Russia and China.

The fact you call Russia a communist country, says a lot. Russia and the US have pretty similar systems. As an American you may feel the US is way more liberal, but it's really not. The way your voting system works is the most un-democratic shit I have ever seen. And the US forces loads of protective measures to help there domestic economy.

 

[Straatblaffer]

So what exactly is? C'mon dude

Socialism. It's the best system for the most people. Captitalism basically creates a huge gap between poor and rich and will eventually crash.

 

[JJCc]

The fact you call Russia a communist country, says a lot. Russia and the US have pretty similar systems. As an American you may feel the US is way more liberal, but it's really not. The way your voting system works is the most un-democratic shit I have ever seen. And the US forces loads of protective measures to help there domestic economy.

The hallmark of communism is and always has been state run industries. You can have both a democracy and communism, as there's nothing within the communist manifesto that warrants a dictatorship of any kind.

The most important aspect of communism I would argue comes from it's rejection of religion, and it's imposition of a state owned/controlled economy that in theory should ultimately be given to the people.

Russia's economy is still very communistic. Most businesses are either wholly owned or partly owned by the government. The government has extreme control of private enterprises. Not to mention, most of the citizens still yearn for the days of the soviet union, if you ever decide to visit Russia, you'll see a lot of Lenin and Stalin statues.

Things like human rights, free speech, and ect., really have nothing to do with communism or democracy. Russia's government owns everything, that makes them a communistic nation.

Think of it this way, the opposite of communism is not democracy, it's capitalism.

 

[Patrick Jane]

In terms of economy China is as capitalist as USA.

In mainland China you cannot buy land and the CCP regularly engages in forced demolition of lower or middle class houses if they think rich people will pay more for living in the area. They don't respect private property rights. Not even regarding your own organs, which they also don't believe you own and will therefore sell.

 

[sapporo ichiban]

Talk is cheap, if you really wanted to stick it to the communists, you wouldn't buy anything made in China. You should also refuse to support fighters with ties to China and Russia, and boycott the UFC if they do events in communist countries like Russia and China.

I do my very best to avoid Chinese goods. Sometimes I even ask if I really need something that bad if options are limited. Do I get a pass on your scale of what dictates whether I can have an opinion on the matter? Truth be told, the more people talk this way the better even if they are helpless at this point to actively follow hard rules. Maybe over time, we will change as a result. I couldn't give a single shit about chinese fighters.

 

[Nightwish]

Wtf

China is a market economy where the law of value regulates social life, like everywhere else. With more state intervention, yes, but that doesnt make it less capitalist.

 

[EXOICHO]

Send this to war room lol

 

[sapporo ichiban]

What Rose said is really stupid. She should keep that trash to herself. But idk about UFC silencing fighters. It's honestly more satisfying when you see Rose's bald ass slammed on her head for her stupid comments. Same with Chael, Covington and McGregors racist comments. Much funner to see them KTFO. There has to be a line to what they can say but idk where to draw that line.

The intelligent people have no problem understanding that being critical of a form of governing that has lead to millions of deaths has absolutely nothing to do with racism. If people are being racist then call them out. If people are saying that the ccp can eat a bag of dicks, I would say they have a leg to stand on.

 

[sapporo ichiban]

I kinda hope they are silenced by the their bosses if it's gonna makes the right wing snowflakes cry more, "muh free speech".

Muh feelings.

I don't think you pinheads realize how lucky you are to have actual rules that are meant to protect you. Free speech gives you the opportunity to be exposed to all points of view to interpret it how you see fit. Many places don't have that. Would you like to have someone control what you hear or are able to say? What if they have that power and they don't see things the way you do? The rules should be preserved above anything else, the next person in charge may not be a good guy. Think about that before saying dumb shit like muh rights. There are people who risk their lives to be a part of what you have kiddo.

 

[JJCc]

China is a market economy where the law of value regulates social life, like everywhere else. With more state intervention, yes, but that doesnt make it less capitalist.

A lot of state intervention, you can't even own land in China. You just rent it. It is a lot less capitalistic than the U.S., I would not try to operate a business in China.

 

[NHBfilipino222]

Have them walk out with this as their walk out music. The CCP will shit their pants.

 

[sapporo ichiban]

China is a market economy where the law of value regulates social life, like everywhere else. With more state intervention, yes, but that doesnt make it less capitalist.

Well, you know your history. After the Mao disaster, the new leader did adopt a capitalist model for the country. It was actually met with some resistance from some of the hardcore old school types but it ultimately saved the nation from economic doom. It doesn't make the government there any less evil just because they have good business sense.

 

[Rajon Rondo]

Communism = everything is owned and controlled by the government. Everyone is provided according to their needs (the way gov't sees it). The Communist Party replaces religion.
Socialism = personal property is allowed but jobs and production are controlled by the government. The biggest difference is higher contributions are supposed to yield better returns (some "inequality" still exists). Freedom of religion is allowed.

Both, Russia and China, are a mix of those along with some capitalist aspects.

Communism = everything is owned and controlled by the government. Everyone is provided according to their needs (the way gov't sees it). The Communist Party replaces religion.
Socialism = personal property is allowed but jobs and production are controlled by the government. The biggest difference is higher contributions are supposed to yield better returns (some "inequality" still exists). Freedom of religion is allowed.

Both, Russia and China, are a mix of those along with some capitalist aspects.

There's different types of socialism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism

 

[chs140]

Sounds like mental gymnastics. He s right. If you are going to virtue signal, then put your money where your mouth is.

My phone isn't Chinese. I buy American clothes. My car is Korean. I grow most of my own food. I don't eat Hershey products and all my coffee is fair trade
I do live by my words.
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to speak out about the horrors of communism because you have some shit phone.
It "sounds like gymnastics" because you're dull.

 

[chs140]

Wtf

National economy, not how they treat their citizenry

 

[sapporo ichiban]

The UFC is the most capitalist entity in MMA to the point of comedy. Dana is a Trumper and has been for years. They’re going to be fine. Leave this red scare paranoia behind big communist isn’t going to silence anyone outside their jurisdiction.

True. Dana just wants a slice of the proceeds from stolen intellectual property pie. Just good business.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

Has any fighter been silenced before? Doubt it'll happen in the future, Dana is very against that type of stuff in UFC. Just because they want to promote events in China and have more Chinese fighters doesn't mean anything else. They just want the Chinese market like they want other international markets, it's good for business. Plus they just spent money opening up a UFC PI in China and had an event showcasing the fighters from there. They are lacking on experience competing with fighters around the world, that's why they didn't have the best showing in their first even showcase. That will change the more they are able to train and compete with fighters around the world, seems like they are only training with other Chinese fighters and that is going to be the main reason they will have to adjust when fighting fighters from around the world.