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Opinion Will psychoanalysis replace election forecasting models?

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by DivineMind, Nov 9, 2020.

  1. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    I'll keep it brief.

    Election models were dogshit.

    PA, FL, WI, OH, MI, IA. Way off.

    Psychoanalytic prediction methods have yielded impressive results as of late (see here: https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...r-predicting-fights-but-why-the-hate.4142470/ as one example).

    Are election models just done for , with no proper way to address the non response bias ?

    Will this open the door up to other prediction methods like psychoanalysis?

    Or are we getting too hung up on quantitative predictions and miss the forest for the trees ? Are polls self fulfilling prophesies?

    Let's hear your thoughts (@HHJ @LFAHFN22 )
     
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  3. spacegnome Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    I thought that was a great read and really like the theory about "joiners" not monsters who perpetrate violence on others. I think generally speaking the article and theory is on the right track in explaining how it is really emotion that caused many people to support trump even though this in unknown even to themselves.

    i especially see the truth in the anger and the feeling of power that aligning to an abusive symbol like trump gives a person from being in that group and also the need of many of these people to have a group to hate rather than a cause to stand for.

    good thread idea man.
     
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  4. wonderbread Stiff Member

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    Trumpers-The media doesn’t decide the winner!
    Trump on election night- “We already won.”
     
  5. Grenz Brown Belt

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    Wrong. From now on we will use crowd sizes and number of lawn signs as election outcomes predictors. If the result of the election goes against the predictions, it triggers an automatic federal investigation into voter fraud.
     
  6. Damien Karras Mirabile dichtu, don't you agree?

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    TS doesn't know what psychoanalysis is let alone know how to apply it to make predictions
     
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  7. Overtures Known Agitator

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    Strange, seems like a shit post of mine.
     
  8. luckyshot The ONLY iPotWR Platinum Member

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    I bet social media algorithms could be used to make very accurate election predictions...

    ... but that would be "unethical."
     
  9. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    Thanks man, as a psychoanalyst I really see the value in this, especially when people become too reliant on pollsters.

    I'm glad you enjoyed the thread.

    But please don't discount my mma psychoanalytical predictions, they have been remarkably accurate.
     
  10. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    Really? My credentials say otherwise.
     
  11. PainIsLIfe Gold Belt

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  12. genecop Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    They are completely useless unless you factor in Voter Fraud...The only way to truly predict an outcome, is to Rig It..Just sayin..
     
  13. KAZSoliloquy Banned Banned

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    and the polls were inaccurate, imagine that.
     
  14. spacegnome Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    ok. im open minded about it and will edit my post accordingly.


    please provide more of your thoughts on trump from that perspective. i believe in that kind of way of looking into the world. im coming more from a spiritual perspective but it does seem to me that a look into peoples motives, into their fears, pride, and wounds can often give a much better explanation for what they do and think than the supposed arguments offered.

    what we find in deep spiritual work is that we are always lying to ourselves and others, always driven by many things that were once hidden and that new vistas of the same are yet to be revealed to us.

    and our unrecognized wounds and pain are always involved in every decision like it or not.
     
  15. Damien Karras Mirabile dichtu, don't you agree?

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    What are your credentials ?
     
  16. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    I'm a psychoanalyst by training.
     
  17. bobgeese Gold Belt

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    So flawed science jumping to junk science.


    Great.
     
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  18. Neph Brown Belt

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    This is really embarassing

    Like your penis.
     
  19. spacegnome Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    the same principles would apply equally to the left bob....... just in different areas and manifesting differently from individual to individual.

    i personally never took any of this to be only about the right other than just being limited by this thread space and subject matter.
     
  20. bobgeese Gold Belt

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    Wasn’t left or right for me either.


    Polls are flawed, but they are at least based in mathematics.

    Psychoanalysis? No offense to the op, but IMO, too much wiggle room for (partisan) bullshit.
     

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