Wilder: Hearn is just milking a fighter(clean version)

[Marc A]

Do you guys feel Hearn is milking his fighters or Wilder? Or is Wilder being misinformed or are we? Explains why he refused the 2nd fight offer


Was the 5 million that outrageous?

Here is the video link ,

 

[Marc A]

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[burningspear]

Because of Wilder's less than stellar resume, I tend to believe Hearn. The big man has stepped up lately though so I could be wrong.

 

[PUO3]

Hearn is simply trying to sign Wilder to his stable.

All the shenanigans lately make perfect sense now that he has come out and said such.

 

[SOAzmayesh]

Wilder becoming like a whining ex girlfriend now...
His team are almost as atrocious as his boxing ability and worst still, fought opponents lol.

 

[treelo]

at the very least, at least Hearn came out and said he refused Wilders offer as AJ wanted to fight in the UK

Wilder has come up with no such reason, and just loves being on the media spouting shit

 

[PUO3]

Wilder becoming like a whining ex girlfriend now...
His team are almost as atrocious as his boxing ability and worst still, fought opponents lol.

Your trolling shtick is worn out. You offer zero outside of fighter bashing in every thread.

 

[SOAzmayesh]

Your trolling shtick is worn out. You offer zero outside of fighter bashing in every thread.

Lol, hardly fighter bashing or saying things illogical.
BUUUUT if I had to pick on someone to get emotional about a negative comment regarding Wilder, I'd have bet on it being the same person running AJ and defending Wilder on every other comment in every thread lol.

Why you love him so much dude?
He's mediocre at best.

 

[PUO3]

Lol, hardly fighter bashing or saying things illogical.
BUUUUT if I had to pick on someone to get emotional about a negative comment regarding Wilder, I'd have bet on it being the same person running AJ and defending Wilder on every other comment in every thread lol.

Why you love him so much dude?
He's mediocre at best.

Feel like Ive been fairly transparent on the situation tbh. Called the BS for what it is on both sides.

Theres no point in trying to explain it to a troll though.

 

[SOAzmayesh]

Feel like Ive been fairly transparent on the situation tbh. Called the BS for what it is on both sides.

Theres no point in trying to explain it to a troll though.

Mate, cos you support a different side or even disagree with someone, doesn't mean you have to hide behind calling them a troll...
Things can be talked about in a humane and civilised fashion, whether there is a difference of opinion or not.
@RR may disagree from what I've seen though, cos, well, 'he's working with hearn for Danny so knows everything' to cover blatant fighter bashing and bias opinions - lol.

Anyway, in terms of boxing :
I think (I think this is more a universally agreed opinion rather than my own) that Wilder is a very poor boxer with regards to boxing and technical ability, that his list of opponents has been very weak and his performances have been of nothing spectacular - especially since moving up a notch in competition.

With regards to AJ, I think he has huge flaws in his game and is still very green.

The difference I see between the two is that AJ has been using his fights to 'try' cautiously to try and fix his weaknesses whereas Wilder has simply fallen back on his wild haymakers

For this reason, I see him being a very easy fight for Joshua and see it being a technical fight (hence joshua being adamant on the UK and fighting so cautiously vs Parker). Wilder may become frustrated and come out firing later in the fight which I also see being his demise as he leaves himself so open to someone with sound boxing ability.

Sorry for the novel.

 

[Philtard]

He's asking for 50/50 on the rematch now or no fight. Now I think that's fair but this is the same guy that said he'd sign the contract last week.

Fucking lol.

Now I'm convinced who's more full of shit.

This has all got to end but it's pretty entertaining. Wilder is pissed. But it's his own team doing imo.

 

[Philtard]

Do you guys feel Hearn is milking his fighters or Wilder? Or is Wilder being misinformed or are we? Explains why he refused the 2nd fight offer


Was the 5 million that outrageous?

Here is the video link ,

Wilder honestly I think has been mugged off here. And I'm pretty convinced he doesn't know the whole story.

5 million to fight anyone is a great offer. Wilder is acting on emotion in not taking this.

He's the one getting fucked over and I think by all angles. Including Eddie. But that Eddie is the way lesser evil here.

 

[PUO3]

Mate, cos you support a different side or even disagree with someone, doesn't mean you have to hide behind calling them a troll...
Things can be talked about in a humane and civilised fashion, whether there is a difference of opinion or not.
@RR may disagree from what I've seen though, cos, well, 'he's working with hearn for Danny so knows everything' to cover blatant fighter bashing and bias opinions - lol.

Anyway, in terms of boxing :
I think (I think this is more a universally agreed opinion rather than my own) that Wilder is a very poor boxer with regards to boxing and technical ability, that his list of opponents has been very weak and his performances have been of nothing spectacular - especially since moving up a notch in competition.

With regards to AJ, I think he has huge flaws in his game and is still very green.

The difference I see between the two is that AJ has been using his fights to 'try' cautiously to try and fix his weaknesses whereas Wilder has simply fallen back on his wild haymakers

For this reason, I see him being a very easy fight for Joshua and see it being a technical fight (hence joshua being adamant on the UK and fighting so cautiously vs Parker). Wilder may become frustrated and come out firing later in the fight which I also see being his demise as he leaves himself so open to someone with sound boxing ability.

Sorry for the novel.

See thats the thing, you dont really give civilized opinions or carry discussions. Thats the first time Ive seen you give an actual opinion. You just drop one liner trash and shit on the guy.

 

[SOAzmayesh]

See thats the thing, you dont really give civilized opinions or carry discussions. Thats the first time Ive seen you give an actual opinion. You just drop one liner trash and shit on the guy.

Anyone would think you were the one trolling the way you've tried to ignite an argument and haven't replied to any part of the previous message or opinion :s

I'll go back through the wilder threads and tag some of my comments to debunk what you just said....

 

[SOAzmayesh]

See thats the thing, you dont really give civilized opinions or carry discussions. Thats the first time Ive seen you give an actual opinion. You just drop one liner trash and shit on the guy.

AJ wants to exploit Wilders apparent lack of technical boxing ability and go for a points win avoiding Wilders one and only threat... His wild power punches.
This may explain his extremely tentative approach vs Parker and his innate desire to fight in the UK.

Am expecting a bit of a boring fight now tbh.

I may be being optimistic but the quietness from both sides since the claim of a contract being sent for the end of last week, gives me a lot of hope...
If Wilders team hadn't signed it, wouldn't Hearn have said by now?
If the contract hadn't been sent or had B. Sht terms in it, wouldn't Wilders team have said by now?

I feel like they must be working out details as I type this...

Any ideas?

I don't think any of this is ducking from either party, in fact, its a stupid term for this situation that each side of fans are using for some reason...
One side (Wilder) tried to hardball in order to gain interest, get the best deal/payday and tried to use the fact that he had the last belt for AJ to collect and the knowledge that Hearn/AJ want/need to crack the US in order to make the final step to superstar do, as leverage.
The other side (AJ/Hearn) tried to dictate terms using the fact they pull better numbers, make way more money for both parties, have multiple belts and a better resumè therefore being the challenged rather than the challenger, as leverage...

It's become a longer more drawn out negotiation process than let's say, Wilder vs Splizka or AJ vs Martin for those reasons, neither Martin or Splizka vs the aforementioned fighters had any leverage whatsoever so it was just a case of :
"here's what you're doing to get paid now sign"

Having to spell any of that out to anyone is a bit ridiculous but then I'm a generous guy and happy to help people be less ignorant to situations.

Ps. Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not so if so, this message is directed at the people who follow your comments narrative regardless...

Just a thought an it may be reaching a bit but...

I've been scratching my head wondering why they picked the same date as canello golovkin when they already said that was a problem that would push it back...

An idea, a very out of wack idea, came in to my head :
Maybe due to the enormity of the fight and short time to hype it, they were gonna 'piggyback' the ggg fight to effectively 'steal' their ppvs.
Weird I know but can't think of any other idea?

Hes a smart guy, that interview was brilliant...
I doubt deontay sat through it all but then I bet finkle did and was praying deontay didn't lol.

Then there's two that you could say I was a little nasty to your boy for calling him or his team pussies, maybe got a little caught up in the excitement, excuse me for using a nasty word.
But the points are still relevant in those too...
1) I said how they were being 'pussies' and using AJs name to cash in on their next fight.
Wilder prob not copable for that but still seems like a viable reasoning when thinking of finkles actions.

2) for saying he seems like a whining ex... Ref : constant twitter videos crying
That his team have been poor
That he has a lack of boxing ability
And that his opponents have been weak (do you disagree for a guy who's had 40pro bouts and is a wbc champion?)

 

[PUO3]

Anyone would think you were the one trolling the way you've tried to ignite an argument and haven't replied to any part of the previous message or opinion :s

I'll go back through the wilder threads and tag some of my comments to debunk what you just said....

Moreso was just calling it for what it is.

Dont have an issue with your view of a Wilder/AJ fight, or his style. Everyones entitled to such. Theres a difference between that post and shit like hes a bum, pussy, etc.

 

[george-oli]

Maybe he is milking him, but I'm sure most promoters do it at some level.

Having said that, under Hearn AJ is on the Forbes rich list for sportsman a few million behind Canelo. Imo is on his way to being the highest paid combat sportsman in the world, not bad for being "milked".

 

[Boxer]

Did he actually just say "Hearn is just another white man, milking a black man"? Hearn's doing much better by his clients than Don King did that I can tell you, King left them broke.

Wilder has a terrible attitude, quite frankly.

What's he doing with Finkel then? is he not white?

You see this is what happens when an ignorant person takes all that "independent modern black man" thing too far.
In life you have to work with people to get things done, Hearn doesn't "milk" Joshua, Hearn is paid by Joshua to be his promoter, Hearn is also helping make Joshua a lot richer than Wilder is, that is a mutually beneficial relationship, I think its quite clear Joshua is the boss in this arrangement.

You can tell Wilder is jealous as hell that he lets his prejudices get in the way of his career and fortune, Joshua doesn't.

Here's a tip for Deontay, if you want to work with a great promoter who happens to be white but don't want to be controlled or over pay .................... then get a good contract drawn up that allows that, because then its a partnership, not a slave deal like those old contracts.

How is this difficult? unless you let racism blind your reason.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

Maybe he is milking him, but I'm sure most promoters do it at some level.

Having said that, under Hearn AJ is on the Forbes rich list for sportsman a few million behind Canelo. Imo is on his way to being the highest paid combat sportsman in the world, not bad for being "milked".

When dude got offered 50 million, I was like, "If AJ keeps winning, he's gonna be Floyd rich real quick." Wilder should jump on that Hearn bandwagon, Hearn don't even back his cash cow 100%, he wants Wilder too because he's ducking the inevitable which is Deontay catching Joshua and probably knocking him out. Or maybe he thinks he can still make $ off Wilder post losing to AJ, who knows? My thought though would be dude doesn't like AJs shot from his business posturing.

 

[listrahtes]

Did he actually just say "Hearn is just another white man, milking a black man"? Hearn's doing much better by his clients than Don King did that I can tell you, King left them broke.

Wilder has a terrible attitude, quite frankly.
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What really has gotten worse in the US is the blatant self victimization of black people. Even millionaires like Woodley or Wilder. Its gotten to a point were many even high paid athletes are high level racists. Segregation nowadays in the US is self inflicted to get special rights and advantages and it works. A true equal society treats everyone the same or at least has this goal. The US and western world in general drifts into annother direction with various vocal minorities demanding special rights and financial advantages and planting hate against others. Its not healthy at all and will get to be a big problem.