Why won't Yushin Okami attack?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Righteous Jon, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. Righteous Jon

    Righteous Jon Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2011
    Messages:
    277
    Likes Received:
    0
    He was in side control for almost a full 3 minutes of round 2 I believe, and didn't attack with a single significant strike. This is disgusting. Joe Rogan said he disagreed with the stand up, but LITERALLY nothing was happening. I'm revolted that someone can know that people pay good money to watch a fight of theirs, only to have them not even attempt to do anything other than lay down in full mount. I feel sorry for Belcher, but he needs better wrestling if he wants a shot at the title. I genuinely don't understand the mindset of someone whose sole purpose of going into a fight is to do quite seriously no damage.

    Other grinders like a Chael Sonnen or a GSP are not as bad because even though someone like Chael doesn't have hardly any power in his attacks, still is relentless and attacks and attacks and attacks. Yushin however did not attempt a single STRIKE in nearly three minutes. Honestly revolting.
     
  2. Jopo

    Jopo Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2001
    Messages:
    16,377
    Likes Received:
    6,092
    Location:
    Spinning backfist seminar in West Linn
    because he doesn't care. No reason not to try to win a contest rather than a fight these days. Pathetic diluted BS.
     
  3. chem31

    chem31 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2009
    Messages:
    1,764
    Likes Received:
    19
    Because that's not how you win fights.
     
  4. mraa1

    mraa1 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    May 27, 2011
    Messages:
    2,266
    Likes Received:
    1,127
    Location:
    down south
    Because he's a wajyutsu fighter

    "wa- peace, harmony, or flexibility"
    "jyutsu - art or technique"

    He's a peaceful warrior looking to defeat his opponents in the most gentle way. It's a true japanese samurai-san spirit way desu desu.
     
  5. The Soothsayer

    The Soothsayer Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2012
    Messages:
    1,641
    Likes Received:
    0
    This gentleman is officially mad.
     
  6. Fork

    Fork Don't call it a comeback...

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2005
    Messages:
    18,701
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    lawlz, ouch.
     
  7. SUCDANUT

    SUCDANUT Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2011
    Messages:
    540
    Likes Received:
    2
    He learned from Sonnen saw how that worked for him.
     
  8. Brotha Will

    Brotha Will Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2012
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    0
    Just Wow
     
  9. biny212

    biny212 Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2012
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    South Korea
    Belcher is responsible for not being able to defend the take down, you cant blame Okami for making Belcher look like an amateur.
     
  10. RyanRAW

    RyanRAW ...

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2010
    Messages:
    4,805
    Likes Received:
    1,433
    Location:
    Norfolk, Virginia
    So you cant take people down and control them to dwindle their energy in a real fight? lol
     
  11. Andre Xiong

    Andre Xiong Silver Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,781
    Likes Received:
    4,795
    did you guys not see and hear Belcher? he was beaten pretty badly if you ask me. and it wasn't like Belcher laid there for him, Okami spent much of his time breaking guard to get to side control and on 2 occassions the newb ref stood them up after the hard work by Okami to pass.
     
  12. JoeLogan

    JoeLogan Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2012
    Messages:
    199
    Likes Received:
    0
    Because Belcher's explosive and powerful enough where one mistake from Okami would mean getting reversed and potentially KO'd almost immediately. Okami realized this right after the first round and decided not to take the risk to posture up; in the third round when he was mounted this was clear. He had Belcher mounted, but Belcher was constantly trying to buck and roll, coming close to doing it a few times, and the only way Okami could stop from that happening was to temporarily sacrifice doing damage for holding position. It's not like he's just a pussy that cares more about getting a decision than winning, it's that he wasn't willing to risk getting knocked out again by making a simple mistake. If you watch the Boetsch fight he was trying very hard to finish Boetsch for the first two rounds, and was anything but boring, but he made a mistake and decided to box with Boetsch and showcase his new, improved striking instead of grapplefucking him for another round (which would tire him out enough to essentially leave him incapable to bullrush him in the final round), and payed for it.

    Basically, risking position against Belcher means there's a very high chance to get reversed and finished very fast, much like War Machine did against Jared Rollins, and Okami wasn't willing to risk that and get KO'd again in embarrassing fashion just to stop the crowd from booing.
     
  13. Jopo

    Jopo Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2001
    Messages:
    16,377
    Likes Received:
    6,092
    Location:
    Spinning backfist seminar in West Linn
    The average time of a real fight is very short.

    When in a real fight can you really do that, did you think this through? Fights in real life last seconds or minutes.

    Oh and yes I am mad! Not a huge Belcher fan, but I was rooting for him, and I'd rather see him get finished than that pathetic excuse for "fighting". Show some damn balls and fight. Its in the name of the org!
     
  14. Jopo

    Jopo Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2001
    Messages:
    16,377
    Likes Received:
    6,092
    Location:
    Spinning backfist seminar in West Linn
    So we have to hold one guy responsible for pulling 2 guys weight to make a fight interesting? How about the guy who is winning the wrestling match puts it to good use-like in a fighting sense... I know its crazy shit
     
  15. Righteous Jon

    Righteous Jon Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2011
    Messages:
    277
    Likes Received:
    0
    This doesn't make sense. It simply doesn't compute. If he didn't want to be KO'd then ATTACK your opponent! He didn't attack at all is my point! I don't particularly like Belcher, and I was rooting for Okami vs. Anderson and Boestch, but this was dastardly! DASTARDLY! I will never root for Okami again after this performance. I can't fathom going into a prize fight with the sole intent of my game plan to be to not attack, and lay still. He had full mount for over a minute and didn't do anything. This is genuinely preposterous! I think he should be paid in full, but I think they should bring back yellow cards for this BS.
     
  16. Trollinator

    Trollinator Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2012
    Messages:
    1,228
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    [​IMG]
     
  17. misfitofscience

    misfitofscience Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    2,987
    Likes Received:
    11
    Jopo is on his period tonight.
     
  18. HAILTHELEAF

    HAILTHELEAF Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Badstreet
    Most action packed thing Okami did today was probably take a shit.....

    To all the typical GO WATCH K1, IM A REAL FAN" responses......Yes...I'm a real fan...of fighting, that is.....If I was interested in what Okami does, I would just go to bed right now and wrap my rms and legs around my girlfriend while lying in bed. He just can't cut the mustard against a superior grappler like when Sonnen took his soul....his jab, plod forward, jab, grab, hold, lay style just can't cut it.....
     
  19. HAILTHELEAF

    HAILTHELEAF Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Badstreet
    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you've never been in an actual ffight before have you? Ever even seen a bar fight or street fight at least? I didn't think so. 20 seconds is not enough time to "hold someone and dwindle their energy"....especially when there are 20 people around, various freinds of both parties, etc...

    Judges don't score streetfights, and you don't try to dwindle someone's energy....jeeez kid.
     
  20. Oblivian

    Oblivian Aging Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2006
    Messages:
    41,532
    Likes Received:
    12,153
    Location:
    Merica
    Good luck finding many superior grapplers at 185.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.