Why was Rampage a bad match up for Chuck?

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The most scared I have ever been for Chuck was both times he fought Rampage.

The first time in Pride, Chuck had glazed eyes like you get with multiple concussions, got slammed and just plain assaulted.

In the UFC, Rampage turned Chuck's lights off with a nasty neck twisting hook. Rampage seemed to be the one guy Chuck could not get on level ground with.

Why was Rampage such a bad match up for Chuck?
 
Rampage could keep the fight standing and had way better boxing then Chuck. Chuck was used to fighting wrestlers without good hands, or when he did get somewhat of a striker, chuck was better. Rampage was the first guy that was just better then him everywhere.
 
Chuck relied on his boxing for offense mostly which happens to be one of rampages strengths.
 
Well for starters Rampage was a very good striker. People have correctly pointed out that Chuck didn't fare so well against strikers. Secondly, Rampage was very aggressive. This was tough on a Chuck because Chuck was a counter striker who needed space and time to operate. Rampage did a good job of pressuring chuck and taking away the space and time for chuck to land his best shots. Thirdly, rampage in his prime was a faster and a better athlete. Fourthly, Rampage had a good chin which is necessary when fighting Chuck.
 
MonstaAJ said:
Rampage could keep the fight standing and had way better boxing then Chuck. Chuck was used to fighting wrestlers without good hands, or when he did get somewhat of a striker, chuck was better. Rampage was the first guy that was just better then him everywhere.
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To add onto that imo Chuck had that aura around him too he could hit hard and his opponents knew they would get the lights turned off if they made a mistake. Rampage just didn't give a fuck and stood there and banged with him.
 
effedup said:
To add onto that imo Chuck had that aura around him too he could hit hard and his opponents knew they would get the lights turned off if they made a mistake. Rampage just didn't give a fuck and stood there and banged with him.
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Definitely. Rampage went into the first fight knowing he could beat him and didn't give a fuck what he brought. The second fight he knew that he had already whooped the "invincible" UFC champion's ass.
 
crossFTW said:
Chuck relied on his boxing for offense mostly which happens to be one of rampages strengths.
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Rampage was monster in K-1 even though he probably threw the least number of kicks of any of his competition!
 
People forget how good 'Rampage' was once upon a time. He was actually somewhat diverse and atop of that he had the stern belief that he was better than Chuck, reinforced by him kicking Chuck's ass back in PRIDE years before.
 
Substance Abuse said:
People forget how good 'Rampage' was once upon a time. He was actually somewhat diverse and atop of that he had the stern belief that he was better than Chuck, reinforced by him kicking Chuck's ass back in PRIDE years before.
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If Rampage had the work ethic of say GSP he would probably have all kind of records set. He was already a complete fighter in the since that his grappling wasn't bad and of course he could stand and trade. But if he would have worked diligently on JJ and incorporated some kicks and td's he would have been a real force to be reckoned with. To me he was always a guy who was great but definitely could have been better.
 
filthynumber1 said:
Better chin
Better boxer
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Yeah, and what that meant was he did not fear Chuck at all. Chuck had the good TDD to stock wrestlers then blast them out- Rampage could out-strike Chuck and also had a decent/functional ground game.
 
Chuck threw looping punches. It was fine against kick boxers and Muay Thai fighters because they strike from a little further. Chucks reach, power and incredible hand speed picked most guys apart. His punches came from weird angles that were hard as fuck to block with the small gloves.

Rampage had legit boxing though and was too good at rolling/slipping and countering. Watch any rampage fight, his best striking moments are usually when people throw sloppy punches at him, he's amazing at weaving just outside the punch and firing back. That's also what got him in trouble with wand because rampage got caught in his clinch trying to do that

They were the rock, paper scissors of 205
 
Macalpinerules said:
Well for starters Rampage was a very good striker. People have correctly pointed out that Chuck didn't fare so well against strikers. Secondly, Rampage was very aggressive. This was tough on a Chuck because Chuck was a counter striker who needed space and time to operate. Rampage did a good job of pressuring chuck and taking away the space and time for chuck to land his best shots. Thirdly, rampage in his prime was a faster and a better athlete. Fourthly, Rampage had a good chin which is necessary when fighting Chuck.
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Back then Rampage also beat the daylights out of a very tough Igor Vovchanchin. Igor could barely get up after that beating! It was unreal. I don't think he or Chuck were ever the same after those brutal maulings.
 
Rampage was a much more technically skilled striker(boxer), chuck in my opinion relied on his opponents trying to take him down in order to create openings. Like others have said, almost all of chucks highlight type finishes came against wrestlers who simply did not want the fight standing. Rampage also tended to throw straighter punches and because he didnt have little trex arms he was often able to beat chuck to the punch.
 
Rampage was a bad matchup for Chuck because at the time, Chuck was living the "Rockstar" lifestyle and he wasn't ready. Rampage took advantage and caught a slow moving fighter and beat him convincingly. This was the fight that started the downfall of Liddell.
 
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