Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by sdpdude9, Mar 14, 2019.
Just put them on the FB prelims so we can get them over with ASAP .
Completely subjective opinion, but I agree. Other sports can tip toe around this issue for the next decade or so, but it's going to be a field day once proponents of the movement turn on each other.
Perfectly fine that you enjoy WMMA. I enjoy some of it as well, but I find most of the girls beyond the top 5 to be of a very low skill level. Majority of their fights tend to be a sparring match with a lot of air hitting. Most of is not fun to watch. Sure, there are bad men’s fights but women seem to be far consistent in bad fights. Just going through the cards that have happened this year, the worst fight on the card has been a women’s bout on almost every card. To each their own man, but I could do without most of it.
Ever hear of a fast forward button? Use it.
Weili Zhang wasn't even top 10 until after her last fight, but I would have gladly watched her fight again.
I've see plenty of WMMA fights that are bore fests, but to be honest, I've seen more from the men. Maybe my expectations are higher for the men, but I enjoy watching a woman that can kick ass.
How can people compare WMMA to the WNBA or tennis?
The women in those sports are actually kinda good.
THey will not put WMMA on it´s own card because it would get 4 PPV buys
yeah, i saw that fight, sad
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The problem is you already have some men that are boring and dont bring a high-skill level, now you bring in WMMA where almost every fight goes to decision and the level of technique to my trained eyes watching is atrocious.
Pretty much nailed it. Of course there are some terrible men’s fights and fighters. But the majority aren’t, unlike women’s fights. They routinely suck the life out of cards and are routinely the worst fight on the card. I honestly don’t think there would be a women’s fight even in my top 100 fights.
Yeah I like that too, I love how balanced WMMA's elite level is, they create good storylines based on that.
Look at 135 division:
Rousey beat Zingano
Zingano beat Nunes
Nunes beat Rousey
Rousey beat Tate
Tate beat Holm
Holm beat Rousey
Nunes beat Shevchenko
Shevchenko beat Holm
And now I heard that they want to make Nunes vs Holm. It's interesting.
Look at 145 division:
Cyborg beat Holly
Holly beat Anderson
Anderson beat Zingano (the one that beat Nunes)
Nunes beat Cyborg
Now the have something interesting to do. They could make Nunes vs Anderson or Cyborg vs Anderson and then Cyborg vs Nunes rematch.
Those are interesting things that you can't see on some men's division, like Jon Jones's division.
But you can't compare that yet, of course MMMA have way more level than WMMA.
The point is that WMMA is something new in UFC, we have to give them some time, it's just starting and they already are puting some good shows.
More recently titles fights on women's divisions:
Nunes vs Shevchenko
Cyborg vs Holm
Joanna vs Rose
Shevchenko vs Joanna
Cyborg vs Nunes
All those were amazing fights and the next one is going to be Rose vs Andrade, that is gonna be a good one for sure.
Now recently titles fights on men's divisions:
Cormier vs Lewis
Jones vs Gustafsson
Woodley vs Usman
Jones vs Smith
Next one: Adesanya vs Gastelum
no need to feel sorry, interest for womens mma are growing at a faster pace then mens mma, for example: there's a reason Amazon requested more WMMA from the UFC recently, although UFC rightfully responded that the womens sport are still in its infancy and doesn't have the depth yet to fill out cards even more
Very much disagree.
Nunes vs. Shevchenko was a slow, uneventful fight.
Cyborg vs. Holm was a decent fight, but I don’t remember many highlights.
Rose vs Joanna was pretty good, tactical fight but again not many highlights.
Shevchenko vs Joanna was a slow, uneventful fight.
Nunes vs Cyborg was a fun, wild barn burner.
And you left out several recent men’s title fights. Likely intentionally to drive your point.
Holloway vs. Ortega was an awesome fight.
Cejudo vs. Dillashaw was a quick and shocking fight.
Like I’ve said, some of the top women fighters are worth watching. But once you get out of the top women, you get a lot of amateur level fighters that are air punching and posing little danger with few finishes. That’s what I don’t like.
It’s perfectly fine you enjoy it. I just disagree that most of it is amazing. 90% of it isn’t UFC level and I don’t like watching it.
Worth noting in assessment of possible bias in your claim: two of the fighters you are complaining about have earned UFC Fight Of The Night awards.
FOTN UFC Fight Night 129: Andrea Lee vs. Veronica Macedo
FOTN UFC 228: Irene Aldana vs. Lucie Pudilova
This doesn’t change the fact that they had the worst fight on these cards. I could point to far more instances of the women’s fight being the worst fight on the card than the best.
I don't intend to go back and watch the full cards to see if there were worse fights on those cards, but your opinion (or mine) on the matter hardly qualifies as "fact".
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