Why Should A Fighter Trust USADA?

[Franc Mittelo]

TMZ was the first media outlet to reveal that Jon Jones tested positive. The UFC and Jon Jones' team found out from social media that he tested positive. Nobody is even questioning this blatant breach in protocol.

It is obvious that somebody at the USADA lab called TMZ to make money, as soon as he/she received information of Jon Jones' urine results.

If somebody at USADA can be so unprofessional, why should any fighter trust that USADA agents will not temper with his/her samples?

What happens from the time a fighter gives a sample to the time it reaches the USADA labs, does anybody know the rules regarding chain of custody as it pertains to USADA sample collections?

 

[PopeUrbanII]

 

[INoHespectChael]

Jon Jones was set up.

 

[Degen Gambler]

I'm pretty sure the people at the lab have no idea who's sample they are testing.

 

[Pitier of Fools]

I'm pretty sure the people at the lab have no idea who's sample they are testing.

That's right. Also, there's a strict chain of custody that they follow to prevent tampering.

 

[Franc Mittelo]

Was TMZ the first people to report that Jon Jones tested positive? Yes. Is that normal protocol? No.

So, how am I being unreasonable?

 

[Bluntforce420]

Its not about trusting USADA. Just dont take banned substances and there wont be any issues

 

[mjmj]

Fake news

 

[Franc Mittelo]

Jon Jones was set up!

It is unlikely that he was set-up. He has tested positive before, and his brother tested positive around the same time. Now, he tests positive again. Too many coincidences.

I believe that it is more likely that (1) Jon Jones is knowingly cheating (2) All people should avoid GAT supplements, because they are tainted (3) Somebody in Jon Jones' close circle hates him, and wants to ruin him (4) Somebody at USADA tried to mess with him.

However, TMZ reported the results first, and that is a breach in protocol. Once protocol has been broken at one point in the chain, it can be broken at another point of the chain.

This is reasonable. USADA is people with emotions and biases. To believe that the individuals do not have their own motives is ridiculous.

 

[bjjatx]

TMZ was the first media outlet to reveal that Jon Jones tested positive. The UFC and Jon Jones' team found out from social media that he tested positive. Nobody is even questioning this blatant breach in protocol.

It is obvious that somebody at the USADA lab called TMZ to make money, as soon as he/she received information of Jon Jones' urine results.

If somebody at USADA can be so unprofessional, why should any fighter trust that USADA agents will not temper with his/her samples?

What happens from the time a fighter gives a sample to the time it reaches the USADA labs, does anybody know the rules regarding chain of custody as it pertains to USADA sample collections?

Chain of custody is as follows:

-Sample is collected
-Sample shipped to Brazil for taste test by Lyoto Machida as formality
-Sample flown via unmarked plane to USADA headquarters at Area 51 for any necessary results tampering
-Results compiled and sent over secure connection to Dana White for edits
-Phony results leaked to TMZ as exclusive in exchange for killing story about the truth regarding GSP's abduction
-Results forwarded to state athletic commission as a sort of invitation to convene a circle-jerk
-B sample receives cursory visual inspection to confirm results
-C sample poured over octagon girls in new advertising integration with pornhub

 

[JohnMandick]

TMZ was the first media outlet to reveal that Jon Jones tested positive. The UFC and Jon Jones' team found out from social media that he tested positive. Nobody is even questioning this blatant breach in protocol.

It is obvious that somebody at the USADA lab called TMZ to make money, as soon as he/she received information of Jon Jones' urine results.

If somebody at USADA can be so unprofessional, why should any fighter trust that USADA agents will not temper with his/her samples?

What happens from the time a fighter gives a sample to the time it reaches the USADA labs, does anybody know the rules regarding chain of custody as it pertains to USADA sample collections?

Here's the real answer. Yes, someone there leaked for sure and that is unprofessional. But I'll bet you anything it's not the people who tested (it's probably anonymous) or the people who took the sample (they wouldn't know yet). It's probably Larry, that janitor with the shifty eyes.

 

[Franc Mittelo]

Its not about trusting USADA. Just dont take banned substances and there wont be any issues

You are being childish. USADA must be trusted or else the whole program is shambolic.

Fighters give their samples to another human being, who has a window of opportunity to do whatever he/she pleases with that sample, their careers are at the mercy of whoever collects that sample.

When you are in a position of vulnerability, that is when trust matters the most.

 

[Shaddows]

Was TMZ the first people to report that Jon Jones tested positive? Yes. Is that normal protocol? No.

So, how am I being unreasonable?

I don't know if this is news to you, but USADA is under a very strict guideline.
And if anyone at USADA was caught doing this, USADA would take such a hit to their credibility that is bigger than the hit Pride took when it was discovered that Yakuza was involved.

If anyone leaked it, it might have been someone at the UFC. Don't forget they are probably the first ones to get notice about their athlete's test results (since they are basically the ones playing the bill).

 

[dipstickjimmy]

TMZ was the first media outlet to reveal that Jon Jones tested positive. The UFC and Jon Jones' team found out from social media that he tested positive. Nobody is even questioning this blatant breach in protocol.

It is obvious that somebody at the USADA lab called TMZ to make money, as soon as he/she received information of Jon Jones' urine results.

If somebody at USADA can be so unprofessional, why should any fighter trust that USADA agents will not temper with his/her samples?

What happens from the time a fighter gives a sample to the time it reaches the USADA labs, does anybody know the rules regarding chain of custody as it pertains to USADA sample collections?

How do you know TMZ leaked it prior to anyone else knowing? You have a time line of when all parties involved received word? TMZ being the first place you heard it and being the first place that reported it doesn't mean they were the first to know.

 

[Captain Herb]

Is there really any doubt who the leaker is? It's the same guy who is constantly trashing his own fighters.

 

[LiveFreeorDie]

USADA informed the UFC and Jon Jones(who was at dinner with friends),that's where the leak probably came from. Or from someone in the NSA who records all phone conversations.

Also the blood test didn't test for Tbol - end that conspiracy.

Substances that dilute or mask piss test don't work well after a weight cut - end that conspiracy.

That being said, lets see the results of the B sample.

I cant stand Jon as a human, but I would pay $100 to watch him fight Stipe! Or I'd at least find a way to watch it.

 

[myjohnson9]

I take mouth swabs of clients everyday at work

All they have to do is watch you seal it, then take a strip that they have to sign and put over the seal.

You can't re open the seal without destroying the signed strip layer over the top

Only way a sample can be messed with is after it's been opened at the lab

 

[mudrubble]

Becuase trust has to be given if we want to receive it.

If a fighter doesn't want USADA Jon Jones'ing them with tainted supplements or spiked drinks, they want to trust USADA. If they can do that USADA will trust them to pass the test and not actually test the urine.

Truthfully, someone at USADA HQ drinks the excess urine because they have a fetish.

Hard to suspect someone with a urine fetish of spiking the urine they want to drink, right?

So fighters must trust USADA. Now more than ever before.

 

[SPB]

TMZ was the first media outlet to reveal that Jon Jones tested positive. The UFC and Jon Jones' team found out from social media that he tested positive. Nobody is even questioning this blatant breach in protocol.

It is obvious that somebody at the USADA lab called TMZ to make money, as soon as he/she received information of Jon Jones' urine results.

If somebody at USADA can be so unprofessional, why should any fighter trust that USADA agents will not temper with his/her samples?

What happens from the time a fighter gives a sample to the time it reaches the USADA labs, does anybody know the rules regarding chain of custody as it pertains to USADA sample collections?

USADA doesn't own the lab or do the testing.

 

[accolyte1022]

Yankovic via being funny.