Why Sarin gas is extremely lethal and who uses it and why (for beginners)

[dragonsfly]

Sarin kills it's victims within 4-5 mins.

Sarin is originally used against deeply entrenched enemies and in this case the rebels of Douma fit this description more then perfect. Assad Airstrikes were not effective against them in the long term due to tunnels.

So SAA found ways to mix Chlorine Gas and Sarin gas in order to keep the Sarin gas sink deeper into the tunnels. Which means Assad has local Sarin nerve production. I saw reports earlier today via Israeli journalist.

tactics has forced Assad to use it as part of tactical warfare but Assad has completely forgotten that his not fighting an army but local insurgency. Assad, Russia and Iran are treating the insurgency as if this is conventional warfare with another country or what not.

Douma has about 200k people living and they are dropping highly lethal nerve gas.

Assad is domestically producing Sarin gas in syria and do you have any idea of how dangerous that is. He could target this with anybody. This is mass destruction weapon. The neighbours won't feel at easy seeing Assad playing with and self producing dangerous gasses

In order to understand how dangerous this gas is.. Here is tutorial and noticed how quick they die within 4 mins despite being entrenched.

 

[GOATER]

What you mean by "target this with anybody"? How far can he reach?

Do you believe he will do such a thing?

 

[Fronk]

Wasn't one of your stupid threads on the subject enough?

There is 0 evidence of Sarin being used in the attack. Especially obvious with the way the responders were running around with no protective gear on at all.

No facts around this case have been established at all. Better just take Army of Islams word on it right? The group that paraded minority civilians around in cages and have been making repeated threats about genocide. This also includes reports about living in areas they control being in no ways better than goverment areas - torture, arbitrary arrests and confiscation of property and the list goes on. But yeah these are the people the US wants to rule Syria so game on. Actual facts doesn't matter only emotional appeals. Americans lap it up.

 

[HIMBOB]

It often seems that the worse the crime the lower the burden of proof.

It really doesn't make much sense to me. Conventional weapons work just fine if you aren't worried about civilian casualties.

 

[syct23]

Cool video man, thanks...

 

[VivaRevolution]

Quitting Over Syria
By PHILIP GIRALDI • November 13, 2013

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff / Flickr
The release of the White House “Government Assessment” on August 30, providing the purported evidence to support a bombing attack on Syria, defused a conflict with the intelligence community that had threatened to become public through the mass resignation of a significant number of analysts. The intelligence community’s consensus view on the status of the Syrian chemical-weapons program was derived from a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) completed late last year and hurriedly updated this past summer to reflect the suspected use of chemical weapons against rebels and civilians.

The report maintained that there were some indications that the regime was using chemicals, while conceding that there was no conclusive proof. There was considerable dissent from even that equivocation, including by many analysts who felt that the evidence for a Syrian government role was subject to interpretation and possibly even fabricated. Some believed the complete absence of U.S. satellite intelligence on the extensive preparations that the government would have needed to make in order to mix its binary chemical system and deliver it on target was particularly disturbing. These concerns were reinforced by subsequent UN reports suggesting that the rebels might have access to their own chemical weapons. The White House, meanwhile, considered the somewhat ambiguous conclusion of the NIE to be unsatisfactory, resulting in considerable pushback against the senior analysts who had authored the report.

In a scenario unfortunately reminiscent of the lead up to Iraq, the National Security Council tasked the various intelligence agencies to beat the bushes and come up with more corroborative information. Israel obligingly provided what was reported to be interceptions of telephone conversations implicating the Syrian army in the attack, but it was widely believed that the information might have been fabricated by Tel Aviv, meaning that bad intelligence was being used to confirm other suspect information, a phenomenon known to analysts as “circular reporting.” Other intelligence cited in passing by the White House on the trajectories and telemetry of rockets that may have been used in the attack was also somewhat conjectural and involved weapons that were not, in fact, in the Syrian arsenal, suggesting that they were actually fired by the rebels. Also, traces of Sarin were not found in most of the areas being investigated, nor on one of the two rockets identified. Whether the victims of the attack suffered symptoms of Sarin was also disputed, and no autopsies were performed to confirm the presence of the chemical.

With all evidence considered, the intelligence community found itself with numerous skeptics in the ranks, leading to sharp exchanges with the Director of Central Intelligence John Brennan and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. A number of analysts threatened to resign as a group if their strong dissent was not noted in any report released to the public, forcing both Brennan and Clapper to back down. This led to the White House issuing its own assessment, completely divorcing the process from any direct connection to the intelligence community. The spectacle of CIA Director George Tenet sitting behind Secretary of State Colin Powell in the United Nations, providing him with credibility as Powell told a series of half-truths, would not be repeated.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/quitting-over-syria/

 

[tkotom]

None of that shit you wrote makes any sense. Because the reports are saying that it killed 50 people.... and according to the narrative you'd think the figure was mostly children..

Why is it that Assad is always looking for hordes of children to gas.

 

[dragonsfly]

None of that shit you wrote makes any sense. Because the reports are saying that it killed 50 people.... and according to the narrative you'd think the figure was mostly children..

Why is it that Assad is always looking for hordes of children to gas.

I put up the video so you can understand how this thing works and if you drop it on a city with 200k you will definitely be killing children, women, men and other form of creatures such as animals small or large

 

[Son of Jamin]

That is a sheep looking video!

 

[HockeyBjj]

We better not go to full scale war over such a shitty fucking piece of land

 

[VivaRevolution]

 

[lifelessheap]

An, "Israeli journalist?" Hmmmmmmm........... What an objective source TS.



Lmao

 

[jonharrison]

Now you can debate back and forth whether or not the Syrians deployed sarin. I’m not in the intelligence community, so I have no idea. The idea, though, that there isn’t an advantage to sarin over conventional weapons is ridiculous. Just read any account of soldiers from the Western Front in WW1. Gas attacks were feared far more than conventional munitions. There’s something incredibly psychologically distressing about a cloud of death slowly creeping towards you that you don’t get from conventional shelling. Similar to Russia’s use of nerve agents, using sarin sends a different message than a normal artillery shell. It’s designed to break the will of the opposition, not just kill. If the Syrians did use gas, the terror of it would ripple through the remaining opposition groups in a way that conventional shelling wouldn’t. Fighters can mentally handle being shot or blown up, but not many people ever want to face dying while convulsing and choking on sarin.

 

[all caps]

Fuck off