why no peekouts?

[pjm46**]

I tried this in the Heavies but didn't get much response.

I am a big fan of wrestling which is why I got into MMA> Following the likes of Couture, Lindland, Hendo and Kos.

Now that fighters are so well rounded and most guys in the UFC have seem to developed a sprawl i have noticed that wrestlers havent really adapted to beat the sprawl.

One of the most basic moves in wrestling is the peekout yet I rarely if ever see one when a guy sprawls.

Is there a reason for this that I don't know about. I think Randy ios one of the few guys who uses wrestling takedowns other than a basic double leg. I also don't understand why guys keep trying to switch from a single to double .

YouTube - Wrestling Drills: Peekout

YouTube - Wrestling Drills: Foot sweeps

YouTube - Zeke Jones teaching takedown drills
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[TacWar]

well I have seen this in MMA on more then one occasion, and my club drills it from turtle position. One reason could be that usually when someone sprawls in MMA they are backing away and trying to stand back up to throw leather, while in grappling you sprawl and then attempt to take the back.

 

[Rush_18]

im no pro or anything but would that actually still work if the guy had one underhook and was actually sprawling not just basically kneeling down overtop of you

 

[JoeHall]

I use it in the gym training all the time, however they have to have weight on top of you as they sprawl, not moving backward. Their forward pressure is paramount to the success of the peek.

 

[pjm46**]

Well the question wasn't just exclusivley about peekouts,

If the guy has an underhook or isn't putting all of his weight down on you you can use a drag out.

It's very rare that I even see guys try to cut the corner, or an good old fashioned crackdown.

Plus you are supposed to do a peekout as soon as the other guy sprawls, its a reaction. You hit it right away before the guy has a chance to back away.

 

[judofarmerbob]

peekouts leave that outside arm open too...

 

[pjm46**]

peekouts leave that outside arm open too...

can you elaborate

 

[pjm46**]

here are some nice clips of top wrestlers.

YouTube - Greg Jones Lateral Drop

YouTube - Cary Kolat Backflip

YouTube - Mark Schultz - Total Violence

 

[How I Roll]

I've seen a few fighters use foot sweeps. Karo does, so does Randy. I think they are becoming more popular.

As far as the peekout goes, I have the wrestling abilities of a 12 year old girl scout, but maybe they are worried because the angle leaves the chin exposed? Atleast it seemed that way in the vid. So maybe there is a danger of an overhand haymaker? I don't know for sure maybe more advanced wrestlers can explain the position after the peekout better.

 

[pjm46**]

I've seen a few fighters use foot sweeps. Karo does, so does Randy. I think they are becoming more popular.

As far as the peekout goes, I have the wrestling abilities of a 12 year old girl scout, but maybe they are worried because the angle leaves the chin exposed? Atleast it seemed that way in the vid. So maybe there is a danger of an overhand haymaker? I don't know for sure maybe more advanced wrestlers can explain the position after the peekout better.

Randy is one of the few guys who seems to use multiple take downs.