Why MMA risks becoming a bush league and going back to era where the UFC was regional level

[Jeffery09]

There was a recent thread where khabib said MMA orgz won´t sign dagestanis anymore and thought that was interesting.

But lets assume the UFC stops signing them including these from central Asia then the MMA global reach will plummet and honestly nobody wants to watch two country bumpkin Americans who can´t fight go at it.

The UFC only exploded when the internationals came from around the world aka the best talent the world has to offer it became more like a world league where the best fighters take on each other regardless of nationality, When Conor, Khabib, the Europeans, the Nigerians, Ngnanou came along MMA exploded internationally.

If the UFC fails to become a world league where the best fighters go then they will be replaced by an actual world league based on meritocracy.

All sports like NBA, NFL, Soccer, Tennis etc etc have been thru this era but eventually only meritocracy works in the long run because nobody watches or want to waste his time on average athletes but only the creme de la creme..

some are saying if you can promote himself yada yada but the truth is nobody gives a fuk if he can´t fight nobody cares how much someone can sell themselves if he can´t fight and lets not forget this is the art of fighting you can either fight or not if not you don´t belong period. Ppl would rather watch a humble ass dude from Central Asia if he can fight that means he belongs.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

The UFC has always featured International fighters, and it actually "exploded" primarily due to the success of American champions. Im not arguing against the rationality of an international competition. Simply pointing out that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[octagonation]

I agree TS.

It is all about the art of fighting and someone who can´t fight should not steal a living it would be against the sport and what it stands for.

Meritocracy is the entertainment itself. If I knew for a fact that it has gone WWE softness I would be the first fan who would stop watching.

Nobody wants to watch two bums fighting no matter their nationality or background

 

[Hellowhosthat]

They get around it by signing some but sticking to a quota. Realistically though people don't give a fuck that there are probably 20 fighters in ACA who would be ranked in the UFC

 

[bouncerpunch]

Streetbeefs on YT has bigger stars than the UFC at this point.

Somethings gotta change.

 

[TITS]

There was a recent thread where khabib said MMA orgz won´t sign dagestanis anymore and thought that was interesting.

But lets assume the UFC stops signing them including these from central Asia then the MMA global reach will plummet and honestly nobody wants to watch two country bumpkin Americans who can´t fight go at it.

The UFC only exploded when the internationals came from around the world aka the best talent the world has to offer it became more like a world league where the best fighters take on each other regardless of nationality, When Conor, Khabib, the Europeans, the Nigerians, Ngnanou came along MMA exploded internationally.

If the UFC fails to become a world league where the best fighters go then they will be replaced by an actual world league based on meritocracy.

All sports like NBA, NFL, Soccer, Tennis etc etc have been thru this era but eventually only meritocracy works in the long run because nobody watches or want to waste his time on average athletes but only the creme de la creme..

some are saying if you can promote himself yada yada but the truth is nobody gives a fuk if he can´t fight nobody cares how much someone can sell themselves if he can´t fight and lets not forget this is the art of fighting you can either fight or not if not you don´t belong period. Ppl would rather watch a humble ass dude from Central Asia if he can fight that means he belongs.

UFC execs probably see crap like this in the other big orgs and don't want to see the same thing happen in the UFC.



Try to sit all the way through this garbage without wanting to turn it off. This was the WW championship fight last year in Bellator. Fighters like Kuramagomedov are absolute box office poison.

 

[ultra321]

There was a recent thread where khabib said MMA orgz won´t sign dagestanis anymore and thought that was interesting.

But lets assume the UFC stops signing them including these from central Asia then the MMA global reach will plummet and honestly nobody wants to watch two country bumpkin Americans who can´t fight go at it.

The UFC only exploded when the internationals came from around the world aka the best talent the world has to offer it became more like a world league where the best fighters take on each other regardless of nationality, When Conor, Khabib, the Europeans, the Nigerians, Ngnanou came along MMA exploded internationally.

If the UFC fails to become a world league where the best fighters go then they will be replaced by an actual world league based on meritocracy.

All sports like NBA, NFL, Soccer, Tennis etc etc have been thru this era but eventually only meritocracy works in the long run because nobody watches or want to waste his time on average athletes but only the creme de la creme..

some are saying if you can promote himself yada yada but the truth is nobody gives a fuk if he can´t fight nobody cares how much someone can sell themselves if he can´t fight and lets not forget this is the art of fighting you can either fight or not if not you don´t belong period. Ppl would rather watch a humble ass dude from Central Asia if he can fight that means he belongs.

Nice Alt account there.....
NO MORE WHITE BELT THREADS!!!!!

 

[Conan the K-9]

UFC execs probably see crap like this in the other big orgs and don't want to see the same thing happen in the UFC.



Try to sit all the way through this garbage without wanting to turn it off. This was the WW championship fight last year in Bellator. Fighters like Kuramagomedov are absolute box office poison.

Go to see the comments on YouTube and you will find out the only ones who want to watch this garbage…

 

[octagonation]

Go to see the comments on YouTube and you will find out the only ones who want to watch this garbage…

Nobody wants to watch two entertaining bums go at it period.

Lets be real here? Peak barca 09-11 people said they were boring as they would choke teams by keeping to much of the ball but everyone saw them because they were the best soccer team of all times.

I used that example to tell you nobody wants to watch an entertaining fight between 2 bums. If you want entertaining fights watch the prelims there is less skill involved and it comes off entertaining as both dudes will likely go for haymakers no technicality involved or tactical plotting

 

[octagonation]

UFC execs probably see crap like this in the other big orgs and don't want to see the same thing happen in the UFC.



Try to sit all the way through this garbage without wanting to turn it off. This was the WW championship fight last year in Bellator. Fighters like Kuramagomedov are absolute box office poison.

I would rather watch high level rather then watch a bum who is entertaining but gets himself KO´ed every other fight.. No thanks!

That is street fighter level nobody wants it but only people who have crafted the art.

Majority of these fighters get cut from the UFC on 1-4 records

 

[CroCopsLHK]

A lot of them are hugging point fighters.

Ufc is an entertainment promotion and that will never change. They have a core audience/demograph

 

[octagonation]

A lot of them are hugging point fighters.

Ufc is an entertainment promotion and that will never change. They have a core audience/demograph

Nor you or the UFC will never be able to sell me two bums fighting. Doesn´t matter if one is from Texas and the other from somewhere in the mountain time zone. Bums who can´t wrestle or strike.

You can´t media hype skills nor can legends be artificially created..

I honestly don´t even watch prelims unless there is a good prospect I know off but other then that I don´t waste my time with all these fighters who get cut and 1000s of them get cut yearly I can´t even mention one name of these who got cut and now you wanna say lets make the whole division full of average fighters

 

[burningspear]

Did you see what Usman got paid for last weeks main event Bush League indeed.

 

[CroCopsLHK]

Nor you or the UFC will never be able to sell me two bums fighting. Doesn´t matter if one is from Texas and the other from somewhere in the mountain time zone. Bums who can´t wrestle or strike.

You can´t media hype skills nor can legends be artificially created..

I honestly don´t even watch prelims unless there is a good prospect I know off but other then that I don´t waste my time with all these fighters who get cut and 1000s of them get cut yearly I can´t even mention one name of these who got cut and now you wanna say lets make the whole division full of average fighters

Not even. There's great fighters all over the world. But yes I guarantee you UFC won't oversaturate a nationality

And if you look at fighters like Evolov, Fitch, you have to know UFC won't promote certain styles. I'm not saying it's right just saying it is what it is

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

The UFC only exploded when the internationals came from around the world aka the best talent the world has to offer it became more like a world league where the best fighters take on each other regardless of nationality, When Conor, Khabib, the Europeans, the Nigerians, Ngnanou came along MMA exploded internationally.

The UFCs initial boom period was down to the success of TUF, Brock coming in, Anderson and GSP hitting their stride as ATG talents etc. Then the UFC springboarded off that into international expansion.

 

[Steve Fox]

Lol ffs

UFC is a business. Meritocracy while pretty is not business friendly and guess what? It is working well for the UFC.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Jeffrey how long have you been watching MMA? just give me a basic honest answer please. I know you will say been watching since UFC 1 and all that hogwash, but try to be straight forward with me. Go..

 

[bjjwar]

There was a recent thread where khabib said MMA orgz won´t sign dagestanis anymore and thought that was interesting.

But lets assume the UFC stops signing them including these from central Asia then the MMA global reach will plummet and honestly nobody wants to watch two country bumpkin Americans who can´t fight go at it.

The UFC only exploded when the internationals came from around the world aka the best talent the world has to offer it became more like a world league where the best fighters take on each other regardless of nationality, When Conor, Khabib, the Europeans, the Nigerians, Ngnanou came along MMA exploded internationally.

If the UFC fails to become a world league where the best fighters go then they will be replaced by an actual world league based on meritocracy.

All sports like NBA, NFL, Soccer, Tennis etc etc have been thru this era but eventually only meritocracy works in the long run because nobody watches or want to waste his time on average athletes but only the creme de la creme..

some are saying if you can promote himself yada yada but the truth is nobody gives a fuk if he can´t fight nobody cares how much someone can sell themselves if he can´t fight and lets not forget this is the art of fighting you can either fight or not if not you don´t belong period. Ppl would rather watch a humble ass dude from Central Asia if he can fight that means he belongs.

Its actually true, if someone like Conor talked all that trash but started losing back in the days no one woule give 2 sh** about it.

 

[EndlessCritic]

OP has apparently never heard of this thing called the "olympics".

Dear OP: The modern olympics is over 100 years old. It is not a perfectly meritocratic event. Rather, the olympics explicitly limits how many athletes can compete from each country in each sport.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Bush league poster watches bush league sport…

I’m going back to PowerSlap