Why Mark Hunt Is Wrong

Not to mention he doesn't even know what the substance is.

I agree that it's not the UFC's fault... they started USADA at their own detriment. this whole discussion is null & void though if it turns out the substance was a Yoel thing. Hunt will eat crow like we've never seen!
 
http://411mania.com/mma/why-mark-hunt-is-wrong/ - Good article by Jeffery Harris. Shortened version Below

For starters, at the end of the day, if Brock Lesnar cheated, that fault is not with the UFC. Sorry, but it’s not. The UFC is a fight promoter. Brock Lesnar was looking for an MMA fight. Mark Hunt was offered that fight, and he agreed to take it. It is not the UFC’s fault when fighters try to cheat and try to get a leg up on the competition. Even before the fight, Mark Hunt was outspoken about his suspicions and accusations for Lesnar, but he still took the fight because he wanted a big fight and a big payday. Now does that make it acceptable for Lesnar to cheat? No it doesn’t. But the UFC is not at fault because Lesnar allegedly is on the juice. Lesnar had never failed a drug test in his entire career. Lesnar was thoroughly tested before the fight. Now does it suck that banned substances weren’t discovered before the fight? Yes, but that’s the also the nature of the business. It’s not the first time fighters have failed drug tests and the results were not revealed until after the fight, and it won’t be the last either. As long as athletes are able to compete, they will try to find ways to cheat and game the system. Does Lesnar potentially getting caught just show how effective the USADA testing is at this point?

The fault here is not with the UFC and USADA. The fault is with fighters who are cheating. They are the ones to blame. That’s where Hunt should be directing his anger. Another silly thing Mark Hunt has done is angle for Brock Lesnar’s entire $2.5 million fight purse. Sorry Hunt, that’s not how the fight game works. There is no law or rule that says even if a fighter cheats, he has to turn over half or over his entire fight purse to you. The UFC doesn’t have to enforce that rule either. Now if Mark Hunt wants to pursue legal options for financial compensation here, more power to him. Also, I’m not against Hunt wanting to try and unionize fighters either, though I’m not sure how far he will get. Personally, I think the UFC and its new owners should probably figure out a way to classify their rosters as actual employees instead of independent contracts as that could potentially fix some of potential problems in the future. Either way, UFC has no obligation to reward Hunt because Lesnar allegedly cheated. In addition, if Lesnar is found guilty of cheating, he is going to get penalized and punished by USADA and the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Mark Hunt said the following: “Before the fight I was assuming he was cheating. Look at him. There’s no way that guy makes 265 pounds. That guy is a gimp, he’s sticking needles in his ass like the rest of these cheaters. And the thing about that is, he’s sitting here saying ‘this is a fair place.’ Well, it’s not fair. These guys are cheating and they should be in court for it. (They should) lose all of their money if they’re cheating, because if I die in there, who’s going to look after my family. That’s corrupt sh*t, man. These motherf*ckers should be penalized hard. Dirty, scummy, cheating scum. That’s how that monkey won his world title. He didn’t do it by doing it clean. He did it by cheating, just like the rest of these cheaters.”

To be perfectly honest, for Hunt to make these claims sounds a little hypocritical. If it bothers him that much, he got out of the fight game a long time ago. Last time I checked, Hunt refused when the UFC offered to buy out his Pride FC contract. Hunt wanted to fight in the UFC, and the UFC gave him that opportunity. None of this bothered Mark Hunt when he fought in Pride FC which had no drug testing or regulatory body in place. Guess what Mark Hunt? Yes, you have fought cheaters in the UFC. And they are being tested and caught. As opposed to his days of fighting Wanderlei Silva, Josh Barnett, and Mirko Cro Cop in the Pride FC era, when they weren’t being tested and caught. Now fighters are getting tested, and they are getting caught unlike what was happening 5-10 years ago. And that still didn’t keep you from fighting or wanting to take fights. If this bothers Mark Hunt that much, he’s really in the wrong business and should’ve gotten out a long time ago.

You're wrong.
 
I'm not a Lesnar fan either...I enjoyed his UFC losses, but Hunt's being ridiculous and so are his supporters. Nobody gives a shit that Anderson got busted for roids, but Lesnar does it and people want to lynch him.

I agree with you, but Anderson did catch a lot of flak for getting busted.
 
http://411mania.com/mma/why-mark-hunt-is-wrong/ - Good article by Jeffery Harris. Shortened version Below

For starters, at the end of the day, if Brock Lesnar cheated, that fault is not with the UFC. Sorry, but it’s not. The UFC is a fight promoter. Brock Lesnar was looking for an MMA fight. Mark Hunt was offered that fight, and he agreed to take it. It is not the UFC’s fault when fighters try to cheat and try to get a leg up on the competition. Even before the fight, Mark Hunt was outspoken about his suspicions and accusations for Lesnar, but he still took the fight because he wanted a big fight and a big payday. Now does that make it acceptable for Lesnar to cheat? No it doesn’t. But the UFC is not at fault because Lesnar allegedly is on the juice. Lesnar had never failed a drug test in his entire career. Lesnar was thoroughly tested before the fight. Now does it suck that banned substances weren’t discovered before the fight? Yes, but that’s the also the nature of the business. It’s not the first time fighters have failed drug tests and the results were not revealed until after the fight, and it won’t be the last either. As long as athletes are able to compete, they will try to find ways to cheat and game the system. Does Lesnar potentially getting caught just show how effective the USADA testing is at this point?

The fault here is not with the UFC and USADA. The fault is with fighters who are cheating. They are the ones to blame. That’s where Hunt should be directing his anger. Another silly thing Mark Hunt has done is angle for Brock Lesnar’s entire $2.5 million fight purse. Sorry Hunt, that’s not how the fight game works. There is no law or rule that says even if a fighter cheats, he has to turn over half or over his entire fight purse to you. The UFC doesn’t have to enforce that rule either. Now if Mark Hunt wants to pursue legal options for financial compensation here, more power to him. Also, I’m not against Hunt wanting to try and unionize fighters either, though I’m not sure how far he will get. Personally, I think the UFC and its new owners should probably figure out a way to classify their rosters as actual employees instead of independent contracts as that could potentially fix some of potential problems in the future. Either way, UFC has no obligation to reward Hunt because Lesnar allegedly cheated. In addition, if Lesnar is found guilty of cheating, he is going to get penalized and punished by USADA and the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Mark Hunt said the following: “Before the fight I was assuming he was cheating. Look at him. There’s no way that guy makes 265 pounds. That guy is a gimp, he’s sticking needles in his ass like the rest of these cheaters. And the thing about that is, he’s sitting here saying ‘this is a fair place.’ Well, it’s not fair. These guys are cheating and they should be in court for it. (They should) lose all of their money if they’re cheating, because if I die in there, who’s going to look after my family. That’s corrupt sh*t, man. These motherf*ckers should be penalized hard. Dirty, scummy, cheating scum. That’s how that monkey won his world title. He didn’t do it by doing it clean. He did it by cheating, just like the rest of these cheaters.”

To be perfectly honest, for Hunt to make these claims sounds a little hypocritical. If it bothers him that much, he got out of the fight game a long time ago. Last time I checked, Hunt refused when the UFC offered to buy out his Pride FC contract. Hunt wanted to fight in the UFC, and the UFC gave him that opportunity. None of this bothered Mark Hunt when he fought in Pride FC which had no drug testing or regulatory body in place. Guess what Mark Hunt? Yes, you have fought cheaters in the UFC. And they are being tested and caught. As opposed to his days of fighting Wanderlei Silva, Josh Barnett, and Mirko Cro Cop in the Pride FC era, when they weren’t being tested and caught. Now fighters are getting tested, and they are getting caught unlike what was happening 5-10 years ago. And that still didn’t keep you from fighting or wanting to take fights. If this bothers Mark Hunt that much, he’s really in the wrong business and should’ve gotten out a long time ago.
Wrong. UFC told Hunt they were testing Brock and the results conveniently came back after the fight. If you think that wasn't on purpose you need help. And please don't have children.
 
http://411mania.com/mma/why-mark-hunt-is-wrong/ - Good article by Jeffery Harris. Shortened version Below

For starters, at the end of the day, if Brock Lesnar cheated, that fault is not with the UFC. Sorry, but it’s not. The UFC is a fight promoter. Brock Lesnar was looking for an MMA fight. Mark Hunt was offered that fight, and he agreed to take it. It is not the UFC’s fault when fighters try to cheat and try to get a leg up on the competition. Even before the fight, Mark Hunt was outspoken about his suspicions and accusations for Lesnar, but he still took the fight because he wanted a big fight and a big payday. Now does that make it acceptable for Lesnar to cheat? No it doesn’t. But the UFC is not at fault because Lesnar allegedly is on the juice. Lesnar had never failed a drug test in his entire career. Lesnar was thoroughly tested before the fight. Now does it suck that banned substances weren’t discovered before the fight? Yes, but that’s the also the nature of the business. It’s not the first time fighters have failed drug tests and the results were not revealed until after the fight, and it won’t be the last either. As long as athletes are able to compete, they will try to find ways to cheat and game the system. Does Lesnar potentially getting caught just show how effective the USADA testing is at this point?

The fault here is not with the UFC and USADA. The fault is with fighters who are cheating. They are the ones to blame. That’s where Hunt should be directing his anger. Another silly thing Mark Hunt has done is angle for Brock Lesnar’s entire $2.5 million fight purse. Sorry Hunt, that’s not how the fight game works. There is no law or rule that says even if a fighter cheats, he has to turn over half or over his entire fight purse to you. The UFC doesn’t have to enforce that rule either. Now if Mark Hunt wants to pursue legal options for financial compensation here, more power to him. Also, I’m not against Hunt wanting to try and unionize fighters either, though I’m not sure how far he will get. Personally, I think the UFC and its new owners should probably figure out a way to classify their rosters as actual employees instead of independent contracts as that could potentially fix some of potential problems in the future. Either way, UFC has no obligation to reward Hunt because Lesnar allegedly cheated. In addition, if Lesnar is found guilty of cheating, he is going to get penalized and punished by USADA and the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Mark Hunt said the following: “Before the fight I was assuming he was cheating. Look at him. There’s no way that guy makes 265 pounds. That guy is a gimp, he’s sticking needles in his ass like the rest of these cheaters. And the thing about that is, he’s sitting here saying ‘this is a fair place.’ Well, it’s not fair. These guys are cheating and they should be in court for it. (They should) lose all of their money if they’re cheating, because if I die in there, who’s going to look after my family. That’s corrupt sh*t, man. These motherf*ckers should be penalized hard. Dirty, scummy, cheating scum. That’s how that monkey won his world title. He didn’t do it by doing it clean. He did it by cheating, just like the rest of these cheaters.”

To be perfectly honest, for Hunt to make these claims sounds a little hypocritical. If it bothers him that much, he got out of the fight game a long time ago. Last time I checked, Hunt refused when the UFC offered to buy out his Pride FC contract. Hunt wanted to fight in the UFC, and the UFC gave him that opportunity. None of this bothered Mark Hunt when he fought in Pride FC which had no drug testing or regulatory body in place. Guess what Mark Hunt? Yes, you have fought cheaters in the UFC. And they are being tested and caught. As opposed to his days of fighting Wanderlei Silva, Josh Barnett, and Mirko Cro Cop in the Pride FC era, when they weren’t being tested and caught. Now fighters are getting tested, and they are getting caught unlike what was happening 5-10 years ago. And that still didn’t keep you from fighting or wanting to take fights. If this bothers Mark Hunt that much, he’s really in the wrong business and should’ve gotten out a long time ago.

I agree with the article. Hunt essentially knew beforehand that Lesnar wasn't clean and was VERY vocal about it. Now that he lost, he wants to complain about it. The world doesn't work that way.

It's kinda like making a bet with someone. You bet on the underdog then when the underdog loses, you want your money back because the other guy was the favorite. The world doesn't work like that..sorry..
 
"It was a sterling sterling job by my lawers and justice was bloody done today,Oi! dana I thought you said i wasnt gonna get all of lesnar's purse? eh well lookit me,eh? look who's fuckin got it? Their practically hauling it all out in bags for me as we speak. Anyway where was we? Oh yeah,i suppose id fight for the UFC again if theyd had me..and all this? it's no big deal. Y'know, it's like... if ya mum stabs ya, whaddya do? Y-ya don't get upset. Ya don't get angry, ya go, "Shit, mum's stabbed me, I better get off to the hospital."
 
I read the ts name and last sentence

' If this bothers Mark Hunt that much, he’s really in the wrong business and should’ve gotten out a long time ago.'

this determined whether i read this garbage or not.

...

therefore, i did not read.

case closed /thread.

Why should the thread be closed because you decided you didn't want to read it? Who made you the overlord of Sherdog..?
 
Shameful post fight behavior for a man. So many tears, so much salt. Facebook is marks purple pillow of shame.
 
Hunt is not salty, is not a whiner, he is not mad.

He just knows that if he manage to get a percentage of Brock's purse, and i am not even talking about the PPV bonuses, he is set for life.
The guy can get more money "whining" about Brock being a cheater then actually fight in the cage in the next 2 years.
 
What? It's the opposite. Everyones defending Lesnar and no one cares even though he's a steroid cheat. Anderson and Jones got destroyed for getting caught.

Anderson got a standing ovation after his last fight. He got busted for taking worse shit than Lesnar and Jones.
 
http://411mania.com/mma/why-mark-hunt-is-wrong/ - Good article by Jeffery Harris. Shortened version Below

For starters, at the end of the day, if Brock Lesnar cheated, that fault is not with the UFC. Sorry, but it’s not. The UFC is a fight promoter. Brock Lesnar was looking for an MMA fight. Mark Hunt was offered that fight, and he agreed to take it. It is not the UFC’s fault when fighters try to cheat and try to get a leg up on the competition. Even before the fight, Mark Hunt was outspoken about his suspicions and accusations for Lesnar, but he still took the fight because he wanted a big fight and a big payday. Now does that make it acceptable for Lesnar to cheat? No it doesn’t. But the UFC is not at fault because Lesnar allegedly is on the juice. Lesnar had never failed a drug test in his entire career. Lesnar was thoroughly tested before the fight. Now does it suck that banned substances weren’t discovered before the fight? Yes, but that’s the also the nature of the business. It’s not the first time fighters have failed drug tests and the results were not revealed until after the fight, and it won’t be the last either. As long as athletes are able to compete, they will try to find ways to cheat and game the system. Does Lesnar potentially getting caught just show how effective the USADA testing is at this point?

The fault here is not with the UFC and USADA. The fault is with fighters who are cheating. They are the ones to blame. That’s where Hunt should be directing his anger. Another silly thing Mark Hunt has done is angle for Brock Lesnar’s entire $2.5 million fight purse. Sorry Hunt, that’s not how the fight game works. There is no law or rule that says even if a fighter cheats, he has to turn over half or over his entire fight purse to you. The UFC doesn’t have to enforce that rule either. Now if Mark Hunt wants to pursue legal options for financial compensation here, more power to him. Also, I’m not against Hunt wanting to try and unionize fighters either, though I’m not sure how far he will get. Personally, I think the UFC and its new owners should probably figure out a way to classify their rosters as actual employees instead of independent contracts as that could potentially fix some of potential problems in the future. Either way, UFC has no obligation to reward Hunt because Lesnar allegedly cheated. In addition, if Lesnar is found guilty of cheating, he is going to get penalized and punished by USADA and the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Mark Hunt said the following: “Before the fight I was assuming he was cheating. Look at him. There’s no way that guy makes 265 pounds. That guy is a gimp, he’s sticking needles in his ass like the rest of these cheaters. And the thing about that is, he’s sitting here saying ‘this is a fair place.’ Well, it’s not fair. These guys are cheating and they should be in court for it. (They should) lose all of their money if they’re cheating, because if I die in there, who’s going to look after my family. That’s corrupt sh*t, man. These motherf*ckers should be penalized hard. Dirty, scummy, cheating scum. That’s how that monkey won his world title. He didn’t do it by doing it clean. He did it by cheating, just like the rest of these cheaters.”

To be perfectly honest, for Hunt to make these claims sounds a little hypocritical. If it bothers him that much, he got out of the fight game a long time ago. Last time I checked, Hunt refused when the UFC offered to buy out his Pride FC contract. Hunt wanted to fight in the UFC, and the UFC gave him that opportunity. None of this bothered Mark Hunt when he fought in Pride FC which had no drug testing or regulatory body in place. Guess what Mark Hunt? Yes, you have fought cheaters in the UFC. And they are being tested and caught. As opposed to his days of fighting Wanderlei Silva, Josh Barnett, and Mirko Cro Cop in the Pride FC era, when they weren’t being tested and caught. Now fighters are getting tested, and they are getting caught unlike what was happening 5-10 years ago. And that still didn’t keep you from fighting or wanting to take fights. If this bothers Mark Hunt that much, he’s really in the wrong business and should’ve gotten out a long time ago.

...and another stupid thread.

The blaming Hunt gets for rightfully open his mouth shows just whats wrong with a lot of people.

He made his concers public before the fight...UFC says its all good don't worry!...Brock Cheatnar gets caught multiple times...Hunt speaks his mind again...and now he is just salty??

I wonder what those Cheatnar defenders would do in Hunts situation....??...from their stand point it seems like they would just shut up and not man up!

So everybody would just keep playing the role as a puppet for the guys in the suit...?

I don't think that it is really about the loss (yes that bugs him too)
but more for the fact that he got played by his bosses...
They want to make the sport clean?...then that shouldn't had happen at all!!...
Guys that are under contract and getting popped ...they getting the hammer and that rightfully so!
But here is a case that just stunk from the beginning and what happens?...nothing!


And to compare that situation to the PRIDE FC days is also dumb...
They never said they want and will clean up the sport...in their contract stood what they are testin for...and no word about steroids/ped's...so you know what you are getting into!

..But now you signed a contract where you get tested for everything and getting suspensions and this and that...and now you getting the 2. guy in a row who cheats...with the new testing system and they let him of the hook...


If you wanna do something right
Fucking do it right!

Sooner or later somebody would have spoken his mind...now it is Hunt...
 
Hunt is not salty, is not a whiner, he is not mad.

He just knows that if he manage to get a percentage of Brock's purse, and i am not even talking about the PPV bonuses, he is set for life.
The guy can get more money "whining" about Brock being a cheater then actually fight in the cage in the next 2 years.
like what %? you think got the paid in 10s of thousands? and he wants a few % of Lesnar's millions?
Hunt got 700k for the fight. he is set for life.
he is just mad and pissed off that UFC pretty much set him up to fight a 300lbs roided out monster, and they knew he was roiding.
 
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