Why Jones, not Dana, has all the power.

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  1. jodka

    jodka Regional Manager

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    People don't seem to get this. I see people saying that Jones has no negotiating power in this whole battle. That because he has 5 fights left on his deal, he's basically screwed. That's simply not true. There are a few things you should know:

    1. Dana cannot force Jones to fight, period. All UFC fighters are independent contractors and while they have fight/time based contracts, each fight is based on a bout agreement.

    2. Jones doesn't need to fight. He's wealthy. He has a wealthy family, as well. He's not hurting in any way.

    3. The UFC has more events than stars. That's clearly true. Freaking Bagautinov is headlining a PPV for goodness sakes. They NEED Jones, Jones is likely the only one this year that has a chance of moving 500k PPVS in one show. (Anderson and GSP can easily, but likely both don't fight this year.) The UFC needs Jones.

    4. Jones won't be pushed around, period. If he doesn't want to do the fight, he won't. (See UFC 151. Or don't.) He'll piss off his boss and thousands of fans and take paydays away from an entire card of fighters and he won't give a shit.


    I truly believe this entire thing is Jones posturing for more money. MUCH more money. He knows how much the UFC is making and how little the fighters get as an overall percentage. Jones simply isn't going to risk his his brain and body for one cent less than he thinks he deserves. Dana said himself they were (as of last week) negotiating a new contract with Jones. Jones is going to play hardball and sit as long as he needs to.

    Dana has Fox to please and PPVs to sell. It's a game of chicken and I promise you, Dana will blink first. Jon will be getting a big raise.
     
  2. Author

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    Jones can't force the UFC to let him keep his LHW title for refusing to fight.

    And I think that threat is enough to make him sign, but I could be wrong.
     
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    FallonFoxGOAT Banned Banned

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    Weidman and Rousey are on the same card that is stacked to the brim.

    175 will be the most stacked card this year, and I'm sure it will easily hit 500k+ PPVs
     
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    Szwok Brown Belt

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    i agree, the UFC needs JBJ alot more then JBJ needs the UFC. Being p4p no1 helps ofc.
     
  5. Not Tuf

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    Jon Jones has money but he won't turn down his future to step off the ride now.
     
  6. AOTB

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    Jon Jones does not have all the power at all.

    Sure he has bargaining power, perhaps more-so than anyone else right now, and can no doubt hold out for a raise, but to suggest he has all the power against a behemoth like the UFC is absurd.
     
  7. Big Brother

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    This. The UFC can threaten him with taking the title away, which is something he truly does not want. Especially with recent comments about how he wants to continue breaking more records while holding the belt.
     
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    goldentoe Banned Banned

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    Jones doesnt have to force anything the Ufc isnt stupid enough to strip Jones of the belt.
     
  9. yookfarb

    yookfarb Red Belt

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    Dana isn't afraid to bite the bullet to make a point.

    The reality of the situation is that the UFC always wins in the end. Just look at Fedor, the Diaz brothers, Randy, BJ, and Tito.

    Essentially, the UFC pretty much can force Jones to fight because he has nowhere else to go.
     
  10. Big Brother

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    Stupid enough? If it's possible they'll threaten to take it away if he doesn't accept the fights that are being proposed.
     
  11. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    The UFC has most of the power for one simple reason, Jones can only be a professional fighter for a finite amount of time and the longer he sits, the more his value declines. All athletes face this reality. The fans are fickle, they will move on if you leave the spotlight for too long.

    In the short term, it might appear that JBJ has all the power since he holds the belt and can delay it's being in contention. But in the long run, he has very little leverage because people won't stop watching the UFC just because of JBJ.
     
  12. Son of Sonnen

    Son of Sonnen Brown Belt

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    Absolutely not. No fighter is bigger than the whole. If Jones left he might boost the ratings elsewhere, but not a single person that was watching UFC would leave with him.
     
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    And the fact that it would take two title fights and the most stacked card of the year to do so proves his point about Jones. Jones vs Gustaffson would do huge numbers by itself. Jones vs DC may even come close because everyone will tune in hoping Jones loses.
     
  14. Jesse James

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    Remember Couture....Jones will either fight when, where & who they tell him to OR he will NOT fight at all - he has five (5) fights left on his contract, true he can wait & wait & wait, but he won't see a payday for awhile, quite awhile...& he will lose many fans by NOT fighting Gus....If it quacks like a duck - it's a fukin' Duck!
     
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    Even without the belt everyone knows he's still the best in the world. He's broken every record in the division for defenses. I doubt it would scare Jones.
     
  16. Author

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    Nah, I don't buy it. Despite the verdict, it was pretty clear who the fan favorite was after Jones/Gus went down. You think he'll gain more fans by denying Gus the rematch he promised? Nope. As much money as the UFC is making, stripping Jones and risking him falling to another org will hardly be a drop in the hat when they have a popular fighter in Gus to rise up and claim the throne. Jones might retain his #1 ranking for some time, but if he fights enough shit competition, Gus or DC would surpass him.

    Jones needs to get his head out of his ass. I understand wanting to be your own person and make your own decisions, but there's a respectful way to go about it. Reneging on your words and promises time and time again, is not it.
     
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    Like how Fedor remained the best in the world....? That lasted. Whatever.

    Then let the UFC try to call his bluff. I for one wouldn't miss him.
     
  18. Heefer Madness

    Heefer Madness White Belt

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    Oh yeah, throw your only PPV star left (and arguably the best fighter in the world) away, maybe send him to Bellator. That's a brilliant idea.

    Dumb sherdoggers just don't seem to grasp that Jones has considerable leverage in this whole situation.
     
  19. Junior Cigano**

    Junior Cigano** Brown Belt

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    If the UFC is willing to take the risk they can get rid of Jones. Sure, they'll lose out on Jones vs Gustafsson and Jones vs Cormier but in the long run Jones will be losing. He can go to Bellator or WSOF but he won't be making the same amount money and he definitely won't be facing the same level of competition. He's eventually gonna come running back to the UFC or spend the rest of his career beating bums.

    The UFC can and are in the processing of building new stars, losing one won't hurt them.
     
  20. Jaden Korr**

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    He just fought his mandatory so he's got a long time before they would be able to strip him.
     

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