Why isn't the UFC trying to get more young HWs?

[kikikhan]

23 out of top 50 HWs are out of the UFC and that is just because the UFC keeps recycling same old top 20 or so HWs.

Why aren't they trying to bring in other top 50 HWs? Younger if possible.

Like:

Minakov 30

Kongo even though 40

Puetz 28

Kharitonov 34

Tony Johnson 29

Grabowski 35

Tybura 29

Goltsov 24

Ivanov 28

Volkov 26

Evgeny Erokhin 29

Bedorf 31

Chris Barnett 29

Derrick Mehmen 30

Smealinho Rama 23

Cody East 27

Alex Huddleston 28

John Hawk 35

Denis Smoldarev 25

Ruben Wolf looks young, can't find age.

Satoshi Ishii 28

Bobby Lashley even though 39

Or at least give the younger guys a shot at the oldies, who are probably ranked too high.

I mean give Ruslan Magomedov someone in the top 15 or even top 10.

Damn, there are plenty of young top 50 HWs that could make the HW division flourish.

There could be a few HW fights on every major card.

Why isn't it happening?

There are only 5 or 6 (I can't find the age of one) top 50 HWs under 30 in the UFC and 14 outside of it.


I can't stand to see the top division dying like this.

 

[Reach4theSky]

Agreed. It's like the forgotten division.

There are good prospects out there, but for some reason the UFC looks to be sitting on their hands.

 

[Bagatur]

UFC likes to have its HWs fight each other 3 times. you dont need a lot of HW fighters for that.

 

[kikikhan]

UFC likes to have its HWs fight each other 3 times. you dont need a lot of HW fighters for that.

Sad but true.

 

[BobsyaUncle]

How many of the ones you named are already under contract somewhere else? Hint, it's a lot.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

Ishii. Lol

 

[kikikhan]

Ishii. Lol

What seems to be the problem?

The UFC is promoting the sh*t out od Ronda who was bronze in the Olympics.

Ishii was gold.

If you don't want Ishii in the UFC then I can't talk to you.

 

[Upchuck22]

Its probably because the current crop of young guns have really made a habit of getting Ktfo.

 

[AusMMAfan]

Stoped reading at Kongo. jkz you are right though. They need to bring in some more new talent to rival the Hunts, Big Foots, Roy Nelson's etc. They brought in some like Nikita and Sao but more could be done.

 

[CR0W]

23 out of top 50 HWs are out of the UFC and that is just because the UFC keeps recycling same old top 20 or so HWs.

Why aren't they trying to bring in other top 50 HWs? Younger if possible.

Like:

Minakov 30

Kongo even though 40

Puetz 28

Kharitonov 34

Tony Johnson 29

Grabowski 35

Tybura 29

Goltsov 24

Ivanov 28

Volkov 26

Evgeny Erokhin 29

Bedorf 31

Chris Barnett 29

Derrick Mehmen 30

Smealinho Rama 23

Cody East 27

Alex Huddleston 28

John Hawk 35

Denis Smoldarev 25

Ruben Wolf looks young, can't find age.

Satoshi Ishii 28

Bobby Lashley even though 39

Or at least give the younger guys a shot at the oldies, who are probably ranked too high.

I mean give Ruslan Magomedov someone in the top 15 or even top 10.

Damn, there are plenty of young top 50 HWs that could make the HW division flourish.

There could be a few HW fights on every major card.

Why isn't it happening?

There are only 5 or 6 (I can't find the age of one) top 50 HWs under 30 in the UFC and 14 outside of it.


I can't stand to see the top division dying like this.

There are quite a few out there, but it's not just as simple as the UFC "not choosing to sign them". There are a lot of other issues you have completely ignored. Fighters have contracts, the UFC can't just sign any fighter at any time.


Minakov - Under contract with Bellator

Kongo - 40, already been cut from the UFC.

Puetz - Solid prospect, usually fights at LHW, came up to HW to fight Tybura, highly doubt he'd fight at HW if the UFC signed him.

Kharitonov - Not going to happen, he wants to be able to compete in kickboxing etc, doesn't want an exclusive contract, would have happened by now if it was going to.

Tony Johnson - Under contract with Bellator. Boring style but would be a solid signing when his contract expires.

Grabowski - Would be a good signing, not exactly "young" but solid fighter.

Tybura - Won't sign him coming off a loss to Puetz but a win over Delija could get him signed once his contract with M-1 is up.

Golstov - Could and should be signed.

Ivanov - Signed to WSOF. Pretty inactive in recent times but hopefully that is now over. A few wins could see him UFC bound.

Volkov - Coming off 2 losses, under contract with Bellator.

Evgeny Erokhin - Coming off some good wins, should be signed.

Bedorf - Hard to see him leaving KSW. He, like Khalidov is earning a pretty penny and a company man and huge star.

Chris Barnett - A valid suggestion when he decides he wants to cut to 265 and not fight at 300lbs+

Derrick Mehmen - Contracted to WSOF, could sign after a few wins, fighting Ivanov next.

Smealinho Rama - Coming off a loss, solid prospect though.

Cody East - Solid suggestion, will probably get signed too, fighting for Legacy helps.

Alex Huddleston - Contracted to Bellator, good prospect, probably not UFC ready though.

John Hawk - Regional level journeyman, could add some depth to the division but not exactly "young" or that talented

Denis Smoldarev - Just bounced back from his first loss, signed to M-1

Ruben Wolf - 10-6, beaten a bunch of nobodies and lost to any noteworthy names (Puetz, Delija and Turek)

Satoshi Ishii - Mid level at best but would cost a lot of money to sign him, really not worth it.

Bobby Lashley - No. Signed to Bellator (Viacom) and TNA under the same deal, also 40.

 

[kikikhan]

There are quite a few out there, but it's not just as simple as the UFC "not choosing to sign them". There are a lot of other issues you have completely ignored. Fighters have contracts, the UFC can't just sign any fighter at any time.


Minakov - Under contract with Bellator

Kongo - 40, already been cut from the UFC.

Puetz - Solid prospect, usually fights at LHW, came up to HW to fight Tybura, highly doubt he'd fight at HW if the UFC signed him.

Kharitonov - Not going to happen, he wants to be able to compete in kickboxing etc, doesn't want an exclusive contract, would have happened by now if it was going to.

Tony Johnson - Under contract with Bellator. Boring style but would be a solid signing when his contract expires.

Grabowski - Would be a good signing, not exactly "young" but solid fighter.

Tybura - Won't sign him coming off a loss to Puetz but a win over Delija could get him signed once his contract with M-1 is up.

Golstov - Could and should be signed.

Ivanov - Signed to WSOF. Pretty inactive in recent times but hopefully that is now over. A few wins could see him UFC bound.

Volkov - Coming off 2 losses, under contract with Bellator.

Evgeny Erokhin - Coming off some good wins, should be signed.

Bedorf - Hard to see him leaving KSW. He, like Khalidov is earning a pretty penny and a company man and huge star.

Chris Barnett - A valid suggestion when he decides he wants to cut to 265 and not fight at 300lbs+

Derrick Mehmen - Contracted to WSOF, could sign after a few wins, fighting Ivanov next.

Smealinho Rama - Coming off a loss, solid prospect though.

Cody East - Solid suggestion, will probably get signed too, fighting for Legacy helps.

Alex Huddleston - Contracted to Bellator, good prospect, probably not UFC ready though.

John Hawk - Regional level journeyman, could add some depth to the division but not exactly "young" or that talented

Denis Smoldarev - Just bounced back from his first loss, signed to M-1

Ruben Wolf - 10-6, beaten a bunch of nobodies and lost to any noteworthy names (Puetz, Delija and Turek)

Satoshi Ishii - Mid level at best but would cost a lot of money to sign him, really not worth it.

Bobby Lashley - No. Signed to Bellator (Viacom) and TNA under the same deal, also 40.

This is what they get, for starting these locked contracts

They wanted to be greedy and now they won't get prospects, because other promotions will lock them down.

Suits them right

 

[cyrusthevyrus]

because they suck??

 

[CR0W]

This is what they get, for starting these locked contracts

They wanted to be greedy and now they won't get proospects, because othr promotions will lock them down.

Suits them right

The UFC needs to be doing Exclusive contracts when they get to the level they are. They're not going to have Werdum, Weidman, Jones etc fighting for them and also for Bellator and WSOF. To suggest otherwise is stupid.

I'm sure the UFC and the fans care more about having Arlovski fighting exclusively for the UFC at HW rather than have John Hawk being able to fight for UFC and numerous regional promotions.

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

Ishii. Lol

ishii is good man

The UFC needs to be doing Exclusive contracts when they get to the level they are. They're not going to have Werdum, Weidman, Jones etc fighting for them and also for Bellator and WSOF. To suggest otherwise is stupid.

I'm sure the UFC and the fans care more about having Arlovski fighting exclusively for the UFC at HW rather than have John Hawk being able to fight for UFC and numerous regional promotions.

unless its a champ it can only help a promotion. It allows other talent to come not just leave

 

[kikikhan]

The UFC needs to be doing Exclusive contracts when they get to the level they are. They're not going to have Werdum, Weidman, Jones etc fighting for them and also for Bellator and WSOF. To suggest otherwise is stupid.

I'm sure the UFC and the fans care more about having Arlovski fighting exclusively for the UFC at HW rather than have John Hawk being able to fight for UFC and numerous regional promotions.

Fighters should be able to break the contract the same way the UFC can.

In Wandy's case for example. When they can't find a common ground they should be able to part ways. Instead the UFC has him hooked.

 

[CR0W]

ishii is good man



unless its a champ it can only help a promotion. It allows other talent to come not just leave

I think you are getting confused about what was said.

It really wouldn't benefit the UFC.

Having feeder promotions help, such as RFA and Titian. ROC have unofficially been a feeder league for years.

It allows the UFC to pick up talent and the feeder legaues often pick up someone cut from the UFC.

But it does not benefit the UFC themselves to have non-exclusive contracts. It benefits smallers promotions to have them. Most regional companies like ROC etc don't offer exclusive contracts, but bigger companies like Bellator and WSOF often do.

 

[eiyuu]

This is what they get, for starting these locked contracts

They wanted to be greedy and now they won't get prospects, because other promotions will lock them down.

Suits them right

But it's okay when Bellator has exclusive contracts.

And it was okay when PRIDE had exclusive contracts, right?

 

[CR0W]

Fighters should be able to break the contract the same way the UFC can.

In Wandy's case for example. When they can't find a common ground they should be able to part ways. Instead the UFC has him hooked.

That's not what we are talking about, we are talking about exclusive and non-exclusive contracts. Although I do agree Wandy and the UFC should mutually terminate his contract under the circumstances, that does not mean the UFC should not give exlusive contracts.

The UFC is right to only do exlusive as it prevents their rivals from making money of their fighters, especially when it's the UFC who builds their name value.

Two completely different subjects.

 

[kikikhan]

I think you are getting confused about what was said.

It really wouldn't benefit the UFC.

Having feeder promotions help, such as RFA and Titian. ROC have unofficially been a feeder league for years.

It allows the UFC to pick up talent and the feeder legaues often pick up someone cut from the UFC.

But it does not benefit the UFC themselves to have non-exclusive contracts. It benefits smallers promotions to have them. Most regional companies like ROC etc don't offer exclusive contracts, but bigger companies like Bellator and WSOF often do.

They should all have exclusive contracts and live on their own talent and not just pick what others develope (UFC).

 

[CR0W]

But it's okay when Bellator has exclusive contracts.

And it was okay when PRIDE had exclusive contracts, right?

Exactly. The UFC is the biggest MMA promotion in the world, exlusive contracts is the only way.