Cause Dredd's a British thing. The British are, even without trying to be insulting, a cucked society that's forged to love rules, bureaucracy and worships shit like NHS as a secular religion. Dredd might work there. But nobody sane, infatuated by freedom and self respect wants to be that asshole or live in his world.
Meanwhile everyone wants to be Batman, Punisher, Spider-Man, etc.
Also, the 2012 movie sucked.
That said, the character and that whole world's been around for so long - many fun stories and tremendous artists have spawned from it all. So I think a great Judge Dredd flick could be made, even with all the necessary characteristics in tact.
Ok but then how do you explain Hollywood turning him into a cartoon with Sly and when the AD British folk took over with the reboot, it turned all serious Nolan-wannabe? Urban even saying he doesn't give a fuck what Sly thinks, like he's a joke and they're so sold on their own shit?Actually the reverse, the original British Bredd comics the character isnt treated entirely seriously, he's a satire of authoritarian fantasies, the US films on the other hand treat him and what he stands for much more seriously.
I mean look at the design of the character, he's a cartoon facist
Ok but then how do you explain Hollywood turning him into a cartoon with Sly and when the AD British folk took over with the reboot, it turned all serious Nolan-wannabe? Urban even saying he doesn't give a fuck what Sly thinks, like he's a joke and they're so sold on their own shit?
In terms of the satire aspect, how did you feel about RoboCop? Which started as a Dredd rip off. Was that closer?The Sly version was lighter in tone perhaps but I think it treated the idea of Dredd and the judging system in a straighter fashion, very little satire. The story itself does show some fallibility of that system but doesnt seem to disagree that its a legitimate system.
Generally I think the popularity of Dredd in the US tends to ignore the satire alot more and plays into a much stronger police authoritarian streak in the culture.
Dredd was created by British John Wagner way back in fucking 1977. It has a longevity but has never been super mainstream.
The Stallone movie was just flat out awful save for a few decent scenes.
And so when it came time for the 2012 reboot they could only go on a 30-45 million dollar budget, only get one real mainstream actor, and there was no hype at all with the movie when it came out in September 2012 and it bombed. Just 41 Mill globally and 13.5 domestic. Which was a shame because I thought it was a very fun movie written and led by Alex Garland. Opening action scene was great. They used the R rating to full effect very mean action. Which I liked although a few moments were a bit much. But it was very impressive futuristic action for such a low budget movie.
They chose to have a contained story revolving around one building very Die Hard esque, which was a shame I wish it was more about mega city 1. Also it's a rare movie where I wished it was much longer (only 96 min) and had a bigger ending to it.
For the rest of his life Karl Urban will be asked when is the sequel but as previously mentioned on this thread the owner of the rights are cucks and studios dont want a sequel of a box office bomb
Other than Karl, Josh Brolin would be a great Judge Dredd he has the Jaw and Voice that Karl didn't have.
In terms of the satire aspect, how did you feel about RoboCop? Which started as a Dredd rip off. Was that closer?
A bit of a simplistic explanation. Every Lionsgate flick - especially around that time - had shit promotion. Even the trailer dropped late June 2012 when the movie was out in September. Few folks knew it even existed. And like Chael says about fighters: doesn't matter how good and undefeated you are, if people don't know you - you don't exist. Same with anything else. Add to it in 2012 Avengers, Dark Knight Rises (+hype about Man of Steel), Spider-Man reboot, Hobbit, Hunger Games, Tarantino being back, new Bond flick, Prometheus, even The Expendables sequel - a lot of other things were sucking up the attention oxygen.Well the question is why haven’t their been anymore Dredd films since Dredd 3D? And that’s an easy answer.
There haven’t been anymore Dredd films since Dredd 3D because despite the fact that the film was very good, fanboys decided to stream it for free rather than support it in theaters. So it “bombed.” It lost money. Therefore there’s no more Dredd movies for the foreseeable future.
The moral of the story is: support the movies you want to see by paying to see them in theaters or VOD. Otherwise you have no right to complain and totally deserve your fate: having to watch Disney live-action remake after Disney live-action remake for eternity.
A bit of a simplistic explanation. Every Lionsgate flick - especially around that time - had shit promotion. Even the trailer dropped late June 2012 when the movie was out in September. Few folks knew it even existed. And like Chael says about fighters: doesn't matter how good and undefeated you are, if people don't know you - you don't exist. Same with anything else. Add to it in 2012 Avengers, Dark Knight Rises (+hype about Man of Steel), Spider-Man reboot, Hobbit, Hunger Games, Tarantino being back, new Bond flick, Prometheus, even The Expendables sequel - a lot of other things were sucking up the attention oxygen.
And the trailer itself.... look at this pitiful shit:
CGI city that looks no better than the Total Recall remake landscapes from the same year, some gay ass song in the background that's demanding me to shut it off, some shit about drugs, close of up some lady that's not pleasant to look at... this is shit. But! Skip right to 0:50, right there. If the they had started the trailer from that point, you would've gotten your sequel.
They were outmatched in terms of marketing budget, but also fucked up with what they had control over. It was a marketing fiasco and not the fault of fans.