why Islam won 4th round

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He outstruck Volk before takedown he controlled Volk for 3 minutes both didn’t do some significant damage on ground volk was put in dangerous positions we know control matters when both fighters don't do much damage + Islam was better on feet before takedown so he clearly won that round
 
I hear ya brother. Never give up on your beliefs.
 
achoo42 said:
The UFC rules score higher for actions that come closer to ending the fight. Islam having his back and going for chokes is closer to ending the fight than Volk's light tapping punches from a terrible position.
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"Going for chokes" and coming nowhere near a finish is equivalent to throwing a punch with the intention of knocking someone out and missing.
 
Do people not realize that effective grappling is also one of the main things judges are to look for? Holding your opponent in a dominant position and attempting subs (although they were well defended by Volk) is effective grappling and in my opinion should win you the round over landing a few shots to a guy who has your back.
 
chinarice said:
"Going for chokes" and coming nowhere near a finish is equivalent to throwing a punch with the intention of knocking someone out and missing.
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No it's literally not, what an awful comparison. If you throw a punch and miss, your opponent can react and counter.

When you have someone's back, you're constantly on offense and your opponent is constantly on defense with no option to counter.

Any idiot can see the difference between these two scenarios, except for you apparently.
 
Someone show me an example of a fighter winning a round via arm punch love taps while having his back occupied like Iraq circa 2004. Let's see if there's a precedent set because before this fight most of you would find that idea retarded (which it is)
 
pick999 said:
Volk did more damage in that round
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Islam clearly won the striking before it went to the ground, after that no damages was done but Islam had dominant position
 
achoo42 said:
No it's literally not, what an awful comparison. If you throw a punch and miss, your opponent can react and counter.

When you have someone's back, you're constantly on offense and your opponent is constantly on defense with no option to counter.

Any idiot can see the difference between these two scenarios, except for you apparently.
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If you throw a sub and miss, you can't be anything'ed? Volk didn't punch him in the face? That must have been my imagination! Ok then! lol what?

When you have someone's back, you're factually not constantly on offense unless you know, you actually do something other than hold on whcih is literally what happened in round 4

Any idiot can't see much, because you didn't watch the fight with your incorrect breakdown of what happened while they were on the mat in round 4. You literally made up things Islam never did

Post the video footage of Islam "Constantly on offense" on the mat in round 4 and I'll never post on Sherdog again. I'll give you all day to post the footage to get me outta here.

You can't because no such footage exists. SMH
 
achoo42 said:
No it's literally not, what an awful comparison. If you throw a punch and miss, your opponent can react and counter.

When you have someone's back, you're constantly on offense and your opponent is constantly on defense with no option to counter.

Any idiot can see the difference between these two scenarios, except for you apparently.
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What? Subs can also leave openings to counter. He was playing it safe by locking up that body triangle and really doing nothing with it. Same thing Aljo did. Although Aljo looked like he was actually trying to sub. Not just getting smacked around. I’m not saying Volk wins this round but this he was going for a sub is ridiculous. He was riding out that position. Be honest.
 
Apect15 said:
He outstruck Volk before takedown he controlled Volk for 3 minutes both didn’t do some significant damage on ground volk was put in dangerous positions we know control matters when both fighters don't do much damage + Islam was better on feet before takedown so he clearly won that round
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Volk oustruck him 2-1 in that round and landed 45-50 shots on the ground. The unified rules says damage trumps all.
 
Apect15 said:
He outstruck Volk before takedown he controlled Volk for 3 minutes both didn’t do some significant damage on ground volk was put in dangerous positions we know control matters when both fighters don't do much damage + Islam was better on feet before takedown so he clearly won that round
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Strikes count for more than control when an advantageous position on the ground isn't used to cause damage or threaten any sort of finish. It's in the scoring criteria.

If all you're doing for 3.5 mins is holding on while not striking or looking for subs/transitions, all while getting hit repeatedly 50-20 for the entire round, then you lost that round based on inactivity.
 
GSPenn1991 said:
Volk oustruck him 2-1 in that round and landed 45-50 shots on the ground. The unified rules says damage trumps all.
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The unified rules says that the actions contributing most to a finish trumps all. Threatening RNCs is much more closer to being able to get a finish than 50 or even 500 light tapping strikes. It's literally not possible to knock someone out with those kinds of strikes.
 
achoo42 said:
The UFC rules score higher for actions that come closer to ending the fight. Islam having his back and going for chokes is closer to ending the fight than Volk's light tapping punches from a terrible position.
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Islam wasn't going for chokes or trying to end the fight though. He was literally holding on while getting punched over and over. The rules actually favor what Volk was doing far more than Islam's holding.
 
achoo42 said:
The unified rules says that the actions contributing most to a finish trumps all. Threatening RNCs is much more closer to being able to get a finish than 50 or even 500 light tapping strikes. It's literally not possible to knock someone out with those kinds of strikes.
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Look at rhe stats. 0 submission attempts in round 4.
 
Islam was winning on the feet in round 4 before he took volk down and controlled him for +3 minutes

He had effective striking & effective grappling in round 4

Clowning and chirping don't win volk that round

People who think volk won that round are crazy and not worth to be taken serious
 
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