Why is there almost no wrestlers in the HW division?

[ACT]

i think they are not succesful, is just too easy to get koed in HW if you cant takedown your oponnent quickly

Just recently:

Randy Couture
Champion - Lesnar
Interim Champ - Carwin
Champion - Velasquez

 

[Metallicalabran]

Just recently:

Randy Couture
Champion - Lesnar
Interim Champ - Carwin
Champion - Velasquez

Of course the elite is successful, but the most part of successful HW are strikers or boxers because is so common to be koed quickly

There are wrestlers in HW but much less than other divisions, that's the point

 

[LHWBelt]

Of course the elite is successful, but the most part of successful HW are strikers or boxers because is so common to be koed quickly

There are wrestlers in HW but much less than other divisions, that's the point

Agreed. Jared Rosholt just got blasted and he was a great wrestler.

 

[ACT]

Of course the elite is successful, but the most part of successful HW are strikers or boxers because is so common to be koed quickly

There are wrestlers in HW but much less than other divisions, that's the point

All depends how well they combine it IMO. Fear of the TD can severely hamper a fighters striking

 

[Steve08]

They are out there, it's just that there aren't a lot of heavyweights out there in general.

Yup, exactly this. Heavyweights are in the upper tier of human size to begin with, meaning there's less of them than everyone else in the first place. Add to that some degree of physical ability needed for mma and you have a rather shallow pool of candidates indeed.

Neither is GSP

It's funny how GSP was basically a striker who decided to become a takedown artist.

And people act as if wrestling is some unknowable gift from god that you literally cant get good at if you havent spent 5 hours of every day wrestling since you were age 4.

He got reversed by condit too, showing that even GSP's (remarkably well-honed) wrestling skillset was fairly narrow. He basically got really good at only a few certain things, which makes sense as he never would have gotten where he did if he had tried to apply that learning, to ALL of Wrestling.

 

[ACT]

Yup, exactly this. Heavyweights are in the upper tier of human size to begin with, meaning there's less of them than everyone else in the first place. Add to that some degree of physical ability needed for mma and you have a rather shallow pool of candidates indeed.It's funny how GSP was basically a striker who decided to become a takedown artist.

And people act as if wrestling is some unknowable gift from god that you literally cant get good at if you havent spent 5 hours of every day wrestling since you were age 4.

He got reversed by condit too, showing that even GSP's (remarkably well-honed) wrestling skillset was fairly narrow. He basically got really good at only a few certain things, which makes sense as he never would have gotten where he did if he had tried to apply that learning, to ALL of Wrestling.

Exactly. I've had friends who have trained with GSP and said his pure wrestling wasn't the best, but his MMA wrestling and actual effectiveness is obviously very good. Just look at Phil Davis and Hendo, great wrestlers (much better than GSP in credentials) but they don't apply it as well.

 

[thecrosby627]

The good ones cut to lhw.

 

[DeathByBeer]

4 of 10 does not equal "almost none"

 

[Average]

Being a big guy like that and wrestling is hard on your body. Think football with all the knee pain but none of the money. A large portion of big wrestlers stop very soon

 

[JKS]

Not many.....there were many in the initial crop of ufc hw's with Coleman, Kerr and Randleman. But after that.....very few that made it successful.

Of course we may have brock coming back.

 

[machidafan99]

many former and Brock will be back soon.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Aubu schaubi bro

 

[Milgrim]

Why is you not include Stipe?