Why is the narrative "Bo Sucks", and not "RDR is a bad man?"

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

Bo obviously has an incomplete skillset and neglected aspects of MMA. He easily could develop into a true contender, but he's definitely not there yet. (Also, seems like he might be better positioned as a WW, but I don't know how easily he could make that weight.)

But RDR was a machine. Super impressive and just imposed his will on Bo. And made Bo's one elite skillset look not-so-elite. Obviously a 2 weight champion in One, and is a HUGE middleweight. Man really shook up that division and showed himself to be more than a dark horse

The only reason people are giving it to him is because he said he can beat all the best fighter in the world, and after a few hits, he quit, he talked so much for the last two years and he was dead wrong, him and his Ariel who was crying today on his show.

 

[jeskola]

 

[Thesnake101]

Because of the way RDR destroyed him. If Bo got outgrappled and tapped it'd be a testament to how deadly RDR's ground game is (and it's very deadly), but since Reinier made him crumble with his very rudimentary striking, same striking that had looked bad prior and was part of the reason Malykhin killed him twice, Bo is rightfully getting ridiculed.

Reinier didn't suddenly become a vaunted striker in one camp in his mid-thirties, he just fought a guy who had even less than serviceable striking.

 

[nostradumbass]

Because it's sherdog, where guys with the athleticism of a glacier can wipe the dorito dust off their fingers and declare anyone who loses a fight a can. Hell, people on here will call someone a can after they win a fight if it wasn't dominant enough.

We're probably going to see a change in strategy after this fight. He's still one of the best wrestlers in the UFC who's only been training striking for a couple years and overstimated his striking and fought 2 of the most dangerous sub guys because he wanted to showcase his striking. He'll probably start using his wrestling more, which is what he should have been doing already.

 

[Meathead Jock]

Because RDR is decent but he turns 35 this year and probably doesn't beat the top 5 middleweights. So compared to Bo's hype, "Bo sucks".

That could change if RDR bucks the odds and works his way into the top 5.

I would take RDR over Strickland than gets him in the top 5 most likely.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

 

[Prazeres]

Because people don't react to things in a vacuum.
Bo was being marketed as the second coming of Jesus, most notably being given a spot on UFC 300's main card and being talked up by pundits as the best prospects in the UFC.
This did not match how fan perceived him, especially after the Paul Craig fight where he looked anything but elite.

Bo having no personality and coming off a boring decision did not help. Like it or not, MMA fan get behind hype trains all the time if the fighter is exciting in and out the cage.

The dissonance between what fans though of Bo and what they felt they were told to feel created the want to see result that confirmed their belief. EI seeing Bo lose so that it would made clear that he wasn't as good as he was made out to be.

 

[Mittens]

It's really a pity. De Ridder's moment - and it was a cool one - is really being overshadowed by The Online folks concentrating on celebrating what is seen as forced marketing push of a green fighter failing. While Bo's seemingly now just Bo and not a star in the making, it should be about RDR.

Often fighting one of these types of fighters is a lose/lose situation in the eyes of The Online, cause they Never Were Any Good to begin with. I mean, neat TKO followed by a decent wisecrack, that's cool. But it is what it is.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Because RDR is from another org. He's also a BJJ guy which on Sherdog means he is everyone's best matchup.

If Bo wins, then he got an easy matchup (which is incredibly ignorant)

If Bo loses, he sucks because he lost to a guy who was an easy matchup

 

[Alpha_T83]

I would take RDR over Strickland than gets him in the top 5 most likely.

For sure. I'm just not sure he beats Strickland, nor that Strickland would accept the fight.

 

[burningspear]

Bo obviously has an incomplete skillset and neglected aspects of MMA. He easily could develop into a true contender, but he's definitely not there yet. (Also, seems like he might be better positioned as a WW, but I don't know how easily he could make that weight.)

But RDR was a machine. Super impressive and just imposed his will on Bo. And made Bo's one elite skillset look not-so-elite. Obviously a 2 weight champion in One, and is a HUGE middleweight. Man really shook up that division and showed himself to be more than a dark horse

If you really believe that, you are going to be disappointed imo.

 

[jsbx45]

Bo can come back for sure, but he got served up a full can of whoopass. He wasn't liking it one bit and looked like he wanted out of there. A nice coaching job at a university somewhere might be sounding good right now.

 

[HatKick]

RDR is definitely a bad man but Bo sucks. If he at least showed some good shit I would give him credit even if he lost. But he did nothing except get dominated in all aspects of the game and finished. The burden of evidence is not on his haters but his fans.

 

[jeff7b9]

Came to sherdog to post this.

I'm gonna put it out there. Both guys are going to win their next fight, and maybe even the one after that... adjusted for trajectory based on the result of this weekend.

That puts RDR in the 2-5 ish ranking range for next opponent which is roughly Strickland- Whittaker territory. And I am saying RDR wins that and that causes a DRASTIC course correction for the way the MMA community views this weekends fights

Instead of "Bo is not that guy"

It's gonna be "oh... RDR IS that guy"

Bo will return to earth and take out the next chump or two. And this will be seen as "hey no shame in losing to that monster"


Weather Bo ever gets to the higher level is up to him, but not beating RDR is not going to age as a big deal or as him being some schmuck. It will be like when Darren Till lost to Dricus and AT THAT TIME no one was giving Dricus any respect but that all changed. Same shit is gonna happen here

 

[RockyLockridge]

Bo obviously has an incomplete skillset and neglected aspects of MMA. He easily could develop into a true contender, but he's definitely not there yet. (Also, seems like he might be better positioned as a WW, but I don't know how easily he could make that weight.)

But RDR was a machine. Super impressive and just imposed his will on Bo. And made Bo's one elite skillset look not-so-elite. Obviously a 2 weight champion in One, and is a HUGE middleweight. Man really shook up that division and showed himself to be more than a dark horse

because RDR has already beaten several fighters better than bo in his career so it's hardly a feather in his cap.


next question.

 

[Ryoto Machida]

Bo is a Dana White Pretender series fighter RDR is a seasoned vet and it showed in spades.

Levels and all that...

Contender series produces a lot of great talent.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

TS haz a lot of extraordinary bravado & outlandish claims for a match that waz very close, but decided by a single great knee that rocked Bo.

I'm just saying that we need to keep this in perspective. Bo got caught. Lets not blow that out of perspective for this new prospect.

 

[sdpdude9]

I think it’s because RDR appears to have a pretty clear ceiling and isn’t believed to be a true top contender and he ran over Bo.

 

[RockyLockridge]

It's really a pity. De Ridder's moment - and it was a cool one -

It was just another moment. De Ridder has many, just because this bum bo nickal was a co-main event slot on a UFC card doesn't mean it's RDR's biggest win. He's beaten better fighters than nickal several times in his career.

 

[Robbocop]

I've seen some people saying De Ridder is a bad man, I certainly think so myself he seems like a beast. There are certain popular "pile-ons" in online MMA forums, like people who cheer on when Bryce Mitchell loses, or people hoping Ian Garry loses.

True it is, when a hypetrain derails, it's novel to see. Certainly don't think anyone can say Bo Nickal sucks, he just encountered his first loss. Dude has had an impressive career so far and just got a reality check.