Why is it hard to stop PEDs?

[NHB7]

Athletes have been using PEDs for decades. Why has it been so hard to stop? If we just got severe wouldn't we just get rid of it in a year?

Look, if you put a metal bar in your gloves, you get criminal charges, expelled from the sport, and basically not paid after legal expenses and so nobody does it!

It's easy to get rid of the PEDs problem, we don't because people apparently don't care to get rid of them enough.

It would suck for a year because we'd lose some great exciting fighters, but by the end of the year, those left and those coming up would realize "It ain't worth it."

 

[flurbi**]

Your last sentence nails it

 

[NHB7]

Your last sentence nails it

Second to last...I added one last minute, sorry.

 

[Pacemaker Joe]

It's easy to limit what athletes can get away with, that's basically what we have now. You aren't going to see someone like Ubereem have a long run without popping. But it's very hard to really eliminate it, without having so much random testing that nobody would compete anymore due to the hassle.

 

[Darwinambrosius]

If a positive test result was accompanied by a lifetime ban, you'd probably see a reduction in usage. The two-year ban with usada is fairly new and while it's serious, it's not truly career-ending in and of itself.

 

[HIMBOB]

No passed test no pay. Seems simple enough.


And one failure results in all prior samples being retested with modern methods.

 

[Jkaylor]

Cuz

 

[Vulcan]

people just like to cheat bro u can find soccer moms on roids in corssfit gyms, of course pro athletes are gonna cheat

 

[ronin707]

$

 

[Arrr Billy]

the problem in my opinion is, right now ufc has probably one of the better (maybe the best?) drug testing in sports, but the ufc gets its fighters from smaller organizations. These smaller organizations dont follow the same guidelines. So I would think many of these up and comers are potentially juicing up (because they can) then once they get to the ufc, they now have to stop or gamble with their career.

I guess for what op is proposing everyone would have to be on board. Thing is can these smaller promotions afford to do so?

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Athletes have been using PEDs for decades. Why has it been so hard to stop? If we just got severe wouldn't we just get rid of it in a year?

Look, if you put a metal bar in your gloves, you get criminal charges, expelled from the sport, and basically not paid after legal expenses and so nobody does it!

It's easy to get rid of the PEDs problem, we don't because people apparently don't care to get rid of them enough.

It would suck for a year because we'd lose some great exciting fighters, but by the end of the year, those left and those coming up would realize "It ain't worth it."

Harsher than necessary penalties have never rid any society of rape, or murder, or theft, and they have never cleansed any sport of PED use.

The urge to inflict draconian punishments on others is an ugly temptation.

As it stands now, the punishments being handed down are too stiff. Multi-year suspensions are too much.

 

[Kyler Ruxin]

Biggest problem is the people making them. They are ahead of the testers. You can't test for something that hasn't been made yet. So right now, in a lab, some genius scientist is making a brand new formula that nobody has ever seen before, and that formula will get passed all of the tests that are in place. After it's been out there for a while, someone will figure out how to test for it, and when they do, there's gonna be another never seen before formula ready to take it's place.

 

[akc814ilv]

This is a sport where people are locked in a cage trying to beat the living shit out of each other.

It's already barbaric whether we want to admit it or not. We may as well let them be at peak athletic performance and juiced to the gills.

 

[MuyThaiElbows]

It's not that fighters are addicted to PEDs or anything. Most fighters are getting busted for things that USDA believes they could be covering up. Some fighters don't know what they put in their body because they trust the people around them.

Plus fighters like Hendo and Bigfoot need TRT. Sonnen, Wand, and Vitor are getting up there in age. Old men need an extra boost especially fighting young evolved guys.

 

[Deleted member 501827]

Well I guarantee no one would even attempt to cheat if the consequences were an immediate perma ban from the sport, no pay and charges filed in a criminal court. Even 2 year suspensions arent deterring enough although they definitely deterred alot of fighters from cheating. Weve seen first hand proof of that. Tons of bodies and performances changing as well as who is rising and falling from the top of divisions. But yeah if penalties were that harsh everyones going to be scared shitless of any kind of "supplement" and they will go back to strictly eating good food and training and thats it.

 

[imagesmb]

Biggest problem is the people making them. They are ahead of the testers. You can't test for something that hasn't been made yet. So right now, in a lab, some genius scientist is making a brand new formula that nobody has ever seen before, and that formula will get passed all of the tests that are in place. After it's been out there for a while, someone will figure out how to test for it, and when they do, there's gonna be another never seen before formula ready to take it's place.

This is the correct answer.

 

[dildos]

usada just has too much fun naming and shaming the best fighters as cheaters.

 

[STRAWBOSS]

JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS

 

[akc814ilv]

Well I guarantee no one would even attempt to cheat if the consequences were an immediate perma ban from the sport, no pay and charges filed in a criminal court. Even 2 year suspensions arent deterring enough although they definitely deterred alot of fighters from cheating. Weve seen first hand proof of that. Tons of bodies and performances changing as well as who is rising and falling from the top of divisions. But yeah if penalties were that harsh everyones going to be scared shitless of any kind of "supplement" and they will go back to strictly eating good food and training and thats it.

Good back to eating good and training?

You do realize that since mma has existed that everyone has been juicing, right?

The two best fighters from ufc 1 have both pissed dirty lol.

The sport has never been clean. Never will. It's impossible to train like these guys do, get the shit beat out of your body and then expect to do it again a few months later. Ped's are necessary if people want to actually enjoy this sport.

 

[sadclown]

Athletes have been using PEDs for decades. Why has it been so hard to stop? If we just got severe wouldn't we just get rid of it in a year?

Look, if you put a metal bar in your gloves, you get criminal charges, expelled from the sport, and basically not paid after legal expenses and so nobody does it!

It's easy to get rid of the PEDs problem, we don't because people apparently don't care to get rid of them enough.

It would suck for a year because we'd lose some great exciting fighters, but by the end of the year, those left and those coming up would realize "It ain't worth it."

Well, if the current clean up can serve as notice for the next generation of fighters, then it could work.