Why is Andre ward acting like a retired bum(rant)

And following a multimillion dollar payday on HBO, he tried to sue Goosen.

Do you think 2 million is good for Wards talent level?
 
Do you think 2 million is good for Wards talent level?

I do.

The only guys who make more money are guys in europe with huge followings and Floyd and Pac who have paid their dues.

I don't see how Ward can really expect more.

didn't Tim Bradley only get 5 mill for fighting pac in the rematch?
 
Do you think 2 million is good for Wards talent level?

Yes, and no..

Andre Ward is a world class talent...I have him #2 behind PBF on the P4P list.

In terms of talent and skill, he's worth much more.

In terms of bringing in fans, high ratings, excitment to the boxing world, and being well known...that sounds about right...

he's just not selling himself, making himself known.

His dissection of Chad Dawson was a thing of beauty...we need to see more of that, more of him.
 
2 Million foe Non-PPV fight is GOOD Money.
 
I do.

The only guys who make more money are guys in europe with huge followings and Floyd and Pac who have paid their dues.

I don't see how Ward can really expect more.

didn't Tim Bradley only get 5 mill for fighting pac in the rematch?

I dont think his pay is close to his talent, but I completely agree he needs more marketing, either by himself or by his promoter. Further, hes seeking the fights that would bring the big pay days. (Mind you I also agree those need to happen out of California.)

I thought Bradley got 6 but I could be wrong.

Yes, and no..

Andre Ward is a world class talent...I have him #2 behind PBF on the P4P list.

In terms of talent and skill, he's worth much more.

In terms of bringing in fans, high ratings, excitment to the boxing world, and being well known...that sounds about right...

he's just not selling himself, making himself known.

His dissection of Chad Dawson was a thing of beauty...we need to see more of that, more of him.

I dont disagree.
 
Think Bradley got 4-5 mil for Marquez too.
 
Do you think 2 million is good for Wards talent level?

Who the hell gets paid based on talent?

No wonder Ward hangs with Nick Diaz...same huge chip on his shoulder, thinking they're God's gift to MMA/Boxing, and expecting multi-million dollar paydays, ON THEIR TERMS.
 
Who the hell gets paid based on talent?

No wonder Ward hangs with Nick Diaz...same huge chip on his shoulder, thinking they're God's gift to MMA/Boxing, and expecting multi-million dollar paydays, ON THEIR TERMS.

Thats one of the dumbest comments Ive ever read.

Who gets paid on talent? Pretty much every athlete in the world maybe.

Difference between Ward and Diaz is that Ward is actually good.
 
What does talent have to do with it?

Should Rigondeaux make more than Canelo?

Its just a question, try and keep up with the whole conversation and not just nitpick.
 
Thats one of the dumbest comments Ive ever read.

Who gets paid on talent? Pretty much every athlete in the world maybe.

Difference between Ward and Diaz is that Ward is actually good.

You are confusing raw talent with achievements.

And frankly, people would rather watch Diaz than Ward.
 
Its just a question, try and keep up with the whole conversation and not just nitpick.

It's a stupid point. Boxing is fundamentaly different than other sports, and to compare boxers to other athletes when it comes to what their salary should be is dumb.

In terms of earnings, boxers are much more like musicians than athletes in team sports.
 
You are confusing raw talent with achievements.

And frankly, people would rather watch Diaz than Ward.

No Im not and hes got plenty of achievements to go with it.

Hows Diaz doing these days?
 
Nick Diaz developed a huge following based on smoking dope.
 
It's a stupid point. Boxing is fundamentaly different than other sports, and to compare boxers to other athletes when it comes to what their salary should be is dumb.

In terms of earnings, boxers are much more like musicians than athletes in team sports.

It wasnt a point, it was a question.

Youll note, if you actually read more than one comment, that Ive said countless times he needs marketing to go along with his skills for the pay.
 
It wasnt a point, it was a question.

A dumb question.

Followed up with:

"Who gets paid on talent? Pretty much every athlete in the world maybe."

Which seems like you're trying to make a point that boxers should get paid on talent.
 
No Im not and hes got plenty of achievements to go with it.

I am aware that you're not. But I wasnt referring to boxing snobs, but the majority of fight fans.

Hows Diaz doing these days?

Arguably better than Ward, at least he's got an offer for a championship fight.

Fighting the establishment, especially when you've signed a contract, is risky.
 
You not being able to provide a worthwhile answer doesnt make it a stupid question.
 
A dumb question.

Followed up with:

"Who gets paid on talent? Pretty much every athlete in the world maybe."

Which seems like you're trying to make a point that boxers should get paid on talent.

"Who gets paid based on talent?" is the only stupid question so far.

For the record I do think their pay should come from abilities more than antics and talking shit. Does not mean that Im not well aware that skills are not what drives most "fans".
 
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