Why every dominant champion's competition is discredited ?

[dontlaugh]

Ok this is the Shit you see in Sherdog :
"Fedor is a can crusher"
"Anderson Silva had an easy MW division"
" All the flyweights suck thats why MM is the champ"

I feel like from the dominant champions JBJ and GSP are the only guys that don't get this much shit, but the rest is always target of people saying their competition wasn't that good.

Why the fuck do people see things like that ?

Fedor fought and won against the best of his era in his prime. It was a different time in MMA, we can't keep comparing HW's back then to HW's now or the conditions of MMA back then, No testing ? well, so what. Even though i also think is BS to let guys juice endlessly i can't really discredit all the PRIDE champs and fights because of that.

Anderson Silva ALSO fought the best MW division had back then, people act like Franklin, Maia, (TRT) Vitor, (TRT) Hendo, Leben, Chael were not at least "legit" MW's ? The actual MW champ was a gatekeeper back then. two old guys still fucked him up.

USADA eh buddeh ? if it was the only reason these guys were better than him, he'd make easy work of them now that they're fucking past 40 and after years of injuries and battles.

Yet this is how Bisping ended the fight against them :

Oh Hendo is actually almost 50, and this is Bisping after fighting him :

When we gonna accept that they fought the best their division had to offer at the time ? and that no, "Post USADA" Champions are not superior than any other champ from other eras ? (and that they duck the fuck outta contenders)

inb4 didn't read lol (it isn't even that big you lazy fucks)

 

[danny23]

The best middleweights were in Strikeforce though.Just look at the current top 5.

 

[Perrichet]

GSP and Jones have beaten better competition than guys like Anderson

 

[Darric]

I don't get why some kids take the time to post on here TS. Going off of the stupid shit some sherdoggers say, their time could be better invested in playing video games, or jerking off.

To be fair some may be multitasking.

In the cases of someone like Fyodor... you will STILL see idiots posting that he ducked the UFC... as if the UFC were something special.

 

[dontlaugh]

GSP and Jones have beaten better competition than guys like Anderson

Is not about who has beaten "better", is about dominance being discredited because people like to find stupid arguments to diminish their run as champions.

 

[kevinramsdell]

MW division was def lighter back then but I mean it doesn't discredit his title run. Still, the best of all time for sure!! JBJ has EASILY the best resume of any fighter, which is he is known as the GOAT.

 

[Perrichet]

Is not about who has beaten "better", is about dominance being discredited because people like to find stupid arguments to diminish their run as champions.

Right, but you made point about GSP and Jones not really having their dominance discredited compared to the rest and that is probably why

 

[dontlaugh]

MW division was def lighter back then but I mean it doesn't discredit his title run. Still, the best of all time for sure!! JBJ has EASILY the best resume of any fighter, which is he is known as the GOAT.

Yet, people will still question it, because of the failed drug test. see what i mean ? it doesn't matter how many times they fought and beat hard competition, little things are enough for most people here to act like these guys were not legit champions.

 

[Kimo Taktarov]

GSP and Jones have beaten better competition than guys like Anderson

I will start analyzing Jones´carreer when he starts fighting at HW

 

[dontlaugh]

Right, but you made point about GSP and Jones not really having their dominance discredited compared to the rest and that is probably why

They still do, you see people here hating hard on JBJ and GSP. ANy dominant champion is discredited. some more than others.

For example, if champion fails a drug test, Sherdog loves to pretend his whole run is invalid and that his competition is instantly 100% clean or that dominant champs cheat more tha anybody else in the division. How many times GSP "hgh gut" was brought up ? they love to find a way to discredit dominant champs instead of just accepting they kicked ass.

 

[CJohnny]

Because Anderson wouldn't dominate the current MW.

That can be said for every one of them besides GSP.

 

[Watermelonfresh]

Ok this is the Shit you see in Sherdog :
"Fedor is a can crusher"
"Anderson Silva had an easy MW division"
" All the flyweights suck thats why MM is the champ"

I feel like from the dominant champions JBJ and GSP are the only guys that don't get this much shit, but the rest is always target of people saying their competition wasn't that good.

Why the fuck do people see things like that ?

Fedor fought and won against the best of his era in his prime. It was a different time in MMA, we can't keep comparing HW's back then to HW's now or the conditions of MMA back then, No testing ? well, so what. Even though i also think is BS to let guys juice endlessly i can't really discredit all the PRIDE champs and fights because of that.

Anderson Silva ALSO fought the best MW division had back then, people act like Franklin, Maia, (TRT) Vitor, (TRT) Hendo, Leben, Chael were not at least "legit" MW's ? The actual MW champ was a gatekeeper back then. two old guys still fucked him up.

USADA eh buddeh ? if it was the only reason these guys were better than him, he'd make easy work of them now that they're fucking past 40 and after years of injuries and battles.

Yet this is how Bisping ended the fight against them :

Oh Hendo is actually almost 50, and this is Bisping after fighting him :

When we gonna accept that they fought the best their division had to offer at the time ? and that no, "Post USADA" Champions are not superior than any other champ from other eras ? (and that they duck the fuck outta contenders)

inb4 didn't read lol (it isn't even that big you lazy fucks)

Bc Sherdog is filled with uneducated trolls

 

[Luger]

 

[dontlaugh]

Because Anderson wouldn't dominate the current MW.

That can be said for every one of them besides GSP.

Yeah right, look at the face of the actual champion against 42 years old Anderson. He wouldn't yeah, they're so much better wow.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Weak or made to look weak?

I suppose your competition will look stronger if you take them all to a decision

 

[CJohnny]

Yeah right, look at the face of the actual champion against 42 years old Anderson. He wouldn't yeah, they're so much better wow.

The current MW champion wouldn't beat even Conor who is a LW.

I don't think he is a top 5 MW.

 

[dontlaugh]

The current MW champion wouldn't beat even Conor who is a LW.

I don't think he is a top 5 MW.

Yeah bisping would go to sleep after 1 left hand {<Mcgoat}

 

[mudrubble]

Funny, ppl don't say that about FW. They say Aldo fought safe, and coasted through rounds, but they don't de-legitimize his competition....

 

[dontlaugh]

Funny, ppl don't say that about FW. They say Aldo fought safe, and coasted through rounds, but they don't de-legitimize his competition....

Like someone said here, if you keep beating your opponents by dec, they look better.

AS and Fedor made a lot of great fighters look amateurs. I remember back in the day almost everyone AS fought was respected and treated seriously, these days...

 

[Exemplar]

No sane fan would discredit some, for example:

GSP = dominant champ, no debate

Bones = dominant champ, no debate

There's no debate based on number of back to back title defenses AND the quality of each challenger.

Bisping = yet to earn status, needs more quality defenses

McGregor = zero defenses, and public talk of long layoff after 205, so we may see 2018 before an actual title defense? lol

etc... etc... etc...