Why don't we see more Judo

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  1. FutureBwChamp

    FutureBwChamp Blue Belt

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    My guess is there is not enough coaches and people that would want to train it. I really wouldn't want to drill being thrown over someone's shoulder. Judo is intense shit! Any guesses . . .
     
  2. joeyjoejoe

    joeyjoejoe Silver Belt

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    Probably more wrasslin coaches that will work cheaper than the old judo master.
     
  3. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

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    Considering the wide range of skills an mma fighter needs, wrestling is simpler so fighter have more time and energy to work on other skills.
     
  4. Th3Sav4ge

    Th3Sav4ge "What the fuck is happening!?"

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    because Lombard is suspended
     
  5. dmtpanic

    dmtpanic Brown Belt

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    Several reasons.

    The judo community hates MMA and will ban athletes from santioned judo for training MMA.

    They banned leg grabbing so it doesn't translate to MMA as well as it used to.

    Also R3 is really known for her newaza game which has really translated nicely to MMA.

    Many of the top judokas that have competed in MMA did so passed their athletic prime.
     
  6. TobikanJudan94

    TobikanJudan94 Never be game over

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    It's probably more of a wideworld diffusion/statistic thing,but up to now wrestling proved to be better
     
  7. Lonestar73

    Lonestar73 Orange Belt

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    Just being a judo expert only works in the shallow pool of talent that is the UFCs women's division.
     
  8. Phrozenspite

    Phrozenspite Black Belt

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    from what i've seen, most of the traditional martial arts practitioners need to be exceptional in their discipline and have the physical tools to utilize it. Whereas with wrestling it seems having that for a grappling base only requires them to be above average to have quite a bit of success(jon fitch for example)
     
  9. snugglecakes

    snugglecakes Purple Belt

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    When I hear judo I don't think of Rhonda and neither should anybody... You should be thinking of the likes of Ishii getting head kicked, the likes of Ming Su Kim getting donkey kong smashed by Brock, the likes of Karo washing out of the UFC, etc
     
  10. Rygu

    Rygu R.I.P. Obie Platinum Member

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    This. Men's MMA have guys who can neutralize judo through other techniques/disciplines.

    /thread
     
  11. Toxxus

    Toxxus The Ancient One

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    Top shelf stupidity there by the judo orgs.

    Banning students because they also train in MMA? What possible rationale is there for that beyond a desire to go out of business?

    Also, I've never been shocked by stupid Judo rule changes as much as I was when they banned leg-based take downs.

    They're already different enough from wrestling to have their own identity. They don't need to exaggerate it by banning effective wrestling techniques from their competitions.

    At the rate they're going Judo will resemble fighting about as much Olympic fencing resembles a sword fight - i.e. Not at all.
     
  12. CerebralKnievel

    CerebralKnievel Gold Belt

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    Karo, Ronda, Lombard, Akiyama, Sokoudjou, Ishii, Dong Hyun Kim I believe.... There are plenty of judo practitioners who excel at MMA.
     
  13. 120wrestling

    120wrestling Brown Belt

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    1. It's super expensive to take, and not as well known as Wrestling
    2. It's difficult to find a Judo gym while wrestling/boxing gyms are in every city
    3. Wrestling can act as a substitute for it (Many of the throws are done in both sports)
     
  14. So Fresh

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    Moose has a judo background
     
  15. ZuffaExecutive

    ZuffaExecutive Red Belt

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    Because Judos leaders are dicks.

    Also most of the throws etc rely on the gi from my understanding.So not everyone can translate it to mma well.Also most of them have 0 ground game.Ronda is the exception in that she developed techniques that werent soley reliant on the gi and had a submission game
     
  16. dmtpanic

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    Both sports could mutually benefit each other but the judo community is stubborn.

    They banned legit techniques for aesthetic reasons.

    The judo R3 competed in was vastly different than what is going on now in judo.
     
  17. FutureBwChamp

    FutureBwChamp Blue Belt

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    I didn't say being a one dimensional. I just mean why don't people train it as often as wrestling, boxing, muay Thai, jiu jitsu etc
     
  18. Speckoh

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    I'm guessing that UFC is largely consisted of Americans and Brazilians on the top of the chain and we don't see much Japanese fighters.
    Lots more wrestling gyms than judo in America.
    The best Judo gyms are most likely in Japan.
     
  19. spid3yo

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    Do they have no gi Judo?
     
  20. Raging Ape

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    thats basically greco-roman wrestling
     

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