Why Does Shogun Keep Dropping For Leglocks When He Has His Opponents Back

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  1. FightOrDie007

    FightOrDie007 Banned Banned

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    He did it twice against Jones and threw a way a great position against Gustafsson aswell where he could of landed some great knees by botching a leglock attempt. He only has like one submission win in his career, he needs to stop thinking that he is Palhares.
     
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    What else is he going to do with their backs?
     
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    According to Rogan he is "a master of leg locks"


    I am really not too sure why, it is a high risk move and rarely works. I figure he did it against Alex because he came close with a leg attack earlier.

    It looks cool at least.
     
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    did it against chuck as well, least shogun goes for the finish all the time..
     
  5. method115

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    He was smart to do it against all these guys because they are either much bigger then him or better wrestlers. Why waste energy trying to take them down.
     
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    It was a real stupid tactic in the Alex fight
     
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    I give him credit for looking for the finish, but as a SHogun fan I just want to see him win and I don't see it happening against fighters like Bones or Gus with a leglock. He should of used that position to land some strong knees and punches or just keep control and pepper then with knees to the think.
     
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    NOOO!!! How the hell was it smart, I mean you might aswell tell him to pull guard then just cause hes fighting bigger fighters. He could of used it to land strikes, instead of just falling to his back.
     
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    Desperation, imo. Seems to be his go to, if/when he is probably losing the decision.
     
  10. trane

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    It's an attempt to get the fight to the ground.
     
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    Think he only has one submission victory in his entire career. Its hard to believe that he's a black belt.
     
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    shogun is dumb...
     
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    Ricardo Arona only has two wins from submission holds.
     
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    Well yea I don't think going for the kneebar was necessarily smart but not trying to take them down I think was smart. What he should have done? I'm not so sure l guess just land some strikes like you said.
     
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    So you think it was a smart move by SHogun?
     
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    I didn't say that. I didn't think it was a smart move in the Jones fight. In the Gus fight I know he went for one in the first round which was a good idea, but I don't remember him going for any others. I've only seen the fight once.
     
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    Yea, he went for another one from an advantageous position and basically just fell to his back like a beached whale.
     
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    I love shogun but I always love to hear joe rogan talk about his "great" leglocks when he has 1 and it was against Kevin randleman who has lost by submission 8 times
     
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    "Remember Mike, Shogun has got great submissions and a very under-rated ground game. Not only has he won by leg lock before but he did it against Kevin Randleman which makes it even more impressive".
     
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    Ya I agree. He'd be better off keeping a good distance and focus on keeping it standing. He just doesn't have the wrestling to dominate guys on the ground. He never will either, still. He's really good at getting to his feet
     

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