Why does every pound matter in MMA up until around 250 lbs?

[jackleeb]

Tom Aspinall = 251 lbs
Jon Jones = 248 lbs

Meanwhile, everyone 185 lbs Middleweight and under, weight bullies like crazy, where every half pound matters.
Is 250 lbs the mythical barrier where guys who are 300 or 450 lbs can't do anything harmful?

- 250 lbs Jon Jones or Tom Aspinall defeats 450 lb Hafthor (250 lbs is 55% of 450 lbs),
- but 155 lb Makhachev or Khabib would NOT defeat someone weighing 280 lbs (155 lbs is 55% of 280 lbs)

 

[don't ask]

- but 155 lb Makhachev or Khabib would NOT defeat someone weighing 280 lbs (155 lbs is 0.55% of 280 lbs)

Man, do you need to learn about this guy:

 

[no fat chicks]

It does but the pool of athletic folks competing in mma bigger than 250 is rare

 

[sonhow]

It would matter if the heavier opponent would be good.
There are no good fighters over those limits so it doesnt matter.

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

There are very few people on the planet that are over 250 and in good shape. Even less if you don't count people on peds.

 

[World eater]

Even less if you don't count people on peds.

The root of the problem right there.

 

[Harlekin]

- 250 lbs Jon Jones or Tom Aspinall defeats 450 lb Hafthor (250 lbs is 0.55% of 450 lbs),
- but 155 lb Makhachev or Khabib would NOT defeat someone weighing 280 lbs (155 lbs is 0.55% of 280 lbs)

Actually it's 55%
0.55% of 250 is 1,375(1.375) pounds. A pretty light weight class

 

[thelovacluka]

Because if you weigh 155, and your opponent 7 lbs more, it's about 5 % weight difference.

If you weigh 250 lbs, and your opponent 7 lbs more, it's 2,5 % difference,

 

[Robbocop]

It would matter if the heavier opponent would be good.
There are no good fighters over those limits so it doesnt matter.

Teddy Riner who just won gold in the Judo at the Olympics is 6'8, 141kg (311 pounds). It would be cool to see him fight in the UFC but it would never happen because he probably can't make 265.

 

[sonhow]

Teddy Riner who just won gold in the Judo at the Olympics is 6'8, 141kg (311 pounds). It would be cool to see him fight in the UFC but it would never happen because he probably can't make 265.

If I remember right he has said in the past he doesnt care about mma at all. If he wanted to theyd make a fight for him.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Teddy Riner who just won gold in the Judo at the Olympics is 6'8, 141kg (311 pounds). It would be cool to see him fight in the UFC but it would never happen because he probably can't make 265.

That's why I believe they should have no limit for HW or cut off is at 300 lbs.

I'd like to see more top elite fighters fight at HW.

 

[Trabaho]

Not enough very large man

Samy Shilt won 4 K1 WGPs by being 7 foot 130 kg. Fighting Saki who is 6 foot 100 kg.

Nganou and Brock are 2 weight classes larger than the rest. And not useless fat mass.

Brock literary drank gallons of hgh and passed it genetically down to his daughter. He literary got caught with hgh by the police.

 

[gentel]

Tom Aspinall = 251 lbs
Jon Jones = 248 lbs

Meanwhile, everyone 185 lbs Middleweight and under, weight bullies like crazy, where every half pound matters.
Is 250 lbs the mythical barrier where guys who are 300 or 450 lbs can't do anything harmful?

- 250 lbs Jon Jones or Tom Aspinall defeats 450 lb Hafthor (250 lbs is 0.55% of 450 lbs),
- but 155 lb Makhachev or Khabib would NOT defeat someone weighing 280 lbs (155 lbs is 0.55% of 280 lbs)

There are definitely per-person limits and diminishing marginal returns, for any given person's frame as well as other organs like the heart, you can only add so much useful mass. There may be some genetic giants who can naturally support >265 effectively but there aren't many, and evidently there aren't any around now who have enough MMA skill for the weight advantage to not be dwarfed by the skill difference

And MMA isn't like strongman or NFL where you just have to be powerful for ~20s at a time, MMA is up to 25min of cardio with only 1min rest every 5min

 

[moreorless87]

If I remember right he has said in the past he doesnt care about mma at all. If he wanted to theyd make a fight for him.

I'm guessing he's famous enough in France he earns big money just staying in Judo, doing adverts and the like.

 

[Megatronlee]

Not enough very large man

Samy Shilt won 4 K1 WGPs by being 7 foot 130 kg. Fighting Saki who is 6 foot 100 kg.

Nganou and Brock are 2 weight classes larger than the rest. And not useless fat mass.

Brock literary drank gallons of hgh and passed it genetically down to his daughter. He literary got caught with hgh by the police.

You can’t pass it to your kids

 

[HHJ]

When you say "weight bully" I just immediately discount anything said after that

 

[HHJ]

That's why I believe they should have no limit for HW or cut off is at 300 lbs.

I'd like to see more top elite fighters fight at HW.

You don't see that. You'll just see more fat guys.

The fat guys who have to cut to make 265 won't cut anymore. That's what you'll get.

Where's the judo guys who can make 265? Oh right.

We aren't missing out on fuckin anything by having that limit. Why aren't these "elite" athletes who apparently wanna be fighters so bad not in Rizin,?

 

[HHJ]

Teddy Riner who just won gold in the Judo at the Olympics is 6'8, 141kg (311 pounds). It would be cool to see him fight in the UFC but it would never happen because he probably can't make 265.

Who says he wants to ever be a fighter or that he'd be any good at it?

 

[Trabaho]

You can’t pass it to your kids

Yo



You can pass a heroin adiction to new borns.

Your dna is influenced by what you do. How else does dna work. What is the purpose of dna. Adaptions. Brocks sperm is high hgh

 

[Rataria]

Well ratio wise it matters less the higher in weight you go.