Why does boxrec.com rank Mike Tyson # 75 on its list of best all-time lb4lb fighters?

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  1. Leonard Haid Minimalist Living the Illusory Dream

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  2. Hagler Man of wealth and taste

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    I blame the Chinese.
     
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  3. deathstalker Blue Belt

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    I agree with his placement. Tyson doesn't have the names like Ali nor the dominance like Joe Louis. He did become undisputed at like 21 years of age, which is amazing, but remember Boxrec is a computerized ranking system so it may not even take that into account.
     
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    Tyson is former HW champ, fuck p4p, that shit is not real anyway, just an imaginary concept.
     
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  5. KAZSoliloquy Banned Banned

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    well they heavily overrate pre-1960’s fighters with their point accrual system. when fighters used to fight constantly, they beat more decent fighters as a whole. just a flaw in the system.
     
  6. bangalangin White Belt

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    Meh he's obv not top 10 p4p material, who knows if he's 35 or 75? The 75th best boxer all time across all weight classes is still going to be a fucking phenomenal boxer.
     
  7. svmVR2097 Brown Belt

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    Feel like it’s too high. He was the 3rd best of his own ERA at HW and barely and probably doesn’t even crack the top 10 HW’s all time and P4P historically was to pump up the status of the lighter fighters so Idk he should be lucky to be that high
     
  8. Misery Signals White Belt

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    As already stated Boxrec uses a computerized ranking system which has its positives and negatives. Plus it changes from time to time. It eliminates bias but can also ignore certain accomplishments.
     
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    Wait. Can you clarify for me. Fighters that fought more and beat better fighters get overrated? Maybe I am not reading it right.
     
  10. KAZSoliloquy Banned Banned

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    not necessarily beat better fighters. just that with more fights, your accrual of points (based on your opponents’ accrued points) goes up. losses also don’t hurt as much when you rematch a guy 8 times.
     
  11. revoltub Gold Card

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    Boxrec rankings are correct. But we just cant understand them in our primitive human minds.
     
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    K I see the criticism with the system. The one thing I will appreciate about numerous rematches is that some of these guys had to face a brutal opponent numerous times. Tunney fought Greb 5x. That's insane. You don't see that anymore.

    So in a number of ways I really appreciate the early fighters had to overcome.
     
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  13. Seano Hands of bone

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    No one has ever been able to make sense of boxrec's rating system.
     
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  14. mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    that's too high if you consider all weight classes. if we talk pfp potential, Mike might be a top tenner.
     
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    It is possible to find 74 professional boxing resumes that are arguably superior to Tyson's. That being said, if you add superstardom as a p4p criteria, he moves drastically up the rankings.
     
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    i can appreciate the difficulty for sure. i just find it a bit redundant, in most cases.
     
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    His record, the length of his careee and the level of talent he fought
     
  18. Buddy Revell Amazon Prime Unboxing Champion

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    ranking HWs p4p is dubious anyway. The Heavyweight division is basically an open division.

    No weight ceiling. And last I remember, no floor (RJJ fought as a 193 HW against John Ruiz).

    Mike Tyson was a career 5’11” HW with a 5’11” reach. And an undisputed all-time great HW. No. There are not 74 better “p4p” fighter in the history of the sport than Mike. Impossible.
     
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  19. Fluffernutter Silver Belt

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    The algorithm
     
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  20. Absolut Red Belt

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    Boxrec rankings are like the nfl defining what is a catch. We all know it’s a shitshow, but we can’t help throwing a tantrum when they screw it up
     
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