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Why do UFC fighters have much more years in there prime

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  1. abedm Yellow Belt

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    Compared to sports like NBA and NHL most athletes hit there prime in there mid 20s and start there decline accept for 2 or 3 players
    Yet UFC is filled with 30 somethings still in there prime.
    What age does the human body hit peak performance
     
  2. Zebra Cheeks 2 Cheeks And A Soda Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    it’s totally different sport to spot and position to position. For example an NFL QB can last 25 years. An RB for the NFL might stay 1-3 years at the top before declining (usually). If you look at league leaders it’s almost entirely different year to year for RBs.

    guys who take less impact, and get hit less, without a doubt last longer in any sport. Having a body and build that is considered healthy as well as athletically advantageous is key as well. Centers in the NBA, or Lineman who are very large and carry a lot of weight typically have shorter primes due to the amount of stress they are putting on their bodies
     
  3. Paul Rudd Corona Virus InFeCtEd

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    Depends on how good the sauce you're on

    LeBron is still playing high level at 37 and Tom Brady is still high level at 43

    Couture did it until he was in his late 40s
     
  4. boladiQup Purple Belt

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    IT'S THE SPICE MELANGE!

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  5. tekkenfan Banned Banned

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    cause humans are evolving tbh 30 today is the new 20 look at men at 30 20 years ago vs a 30 year old now

    thats only part of it though also mma is a grappling strong sport so unlike boxing it isnt dominated by hand speed with so many avenues to choose from gives you more chances to do well tbh i feel if u fight below 170 u can easily fight till 40 at a good level as long as u stay healthy i first competed at 16 now 28 and plan to do it till 40
     
  6. tekkenfan Banned Banned

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    cause basketball i dont feel you can compare to mma ect its all about running down a court and being over 6 foot 4 shaq is proof of this and yao ming
     
  7. linvillegorge Silver Belt

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    This is gonna trigger some people, but honestly the answer is less depth in competition. There simply isn't as many talented competitors in combat sports as there are in the major team sports primarily due to participation rate.
     
  8. Paul Rudd Corona Virus InFeCtEd

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    Lol Shaq was in terrible shape after 03
    According to Kobe, Shaq could have been the GOAT if he actually had a work ethic.
     
  9. NoBiasJustMMA Steel Belt

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    1. There is more to learn when it comes to MMA so physical decline can be offset by improving in skill, fight IQ, footwork ect.

    2. Football has highly specialized positions.

    3. Football has a larger talent pool.
     
  10. linvillegorge Silver Belt

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    You never saw Shaq play when he was young, did you? Dude was a straight freak of an athlete.



    Keep in mind, you're watching a guy who's over seven feet tall and probably weighed close to or at 300 pounds.
     
  11. ConorFacts Banned Banned

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    UFCs Talent pool is good thats why
     
  12. TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle Brown Belt

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    Guys are fighting 2-3 times a year in MMA. At that rate it can be years before your physical decline becomes noticeable to other people. Different story when people are watching you every weekend for months on end every year.
     
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    Football is high impact. Soccer is not as high impact but its hard on the knees and hips . Ronaldo is still on top of the chain at 35,hes been at the top since 18.
     
  14. IsNormal Brown Belt

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    Based on NHL stats it's LATE 20's.

    National Hockey League forwards reach their peak scoring performance at age 28 and defencemen peak at age 29, while goaltenders show little change in performance based on age, says a new study that crunched the numbers.
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/when-nhl-players-peak-hockey-metrics-1.2646054

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    It's also worth mentioning that it usually takes the public a year or two to realise that a player has reached greatness. So even when players peak at 28-29 they're not usually recognized as greats until a bit later.

    ( I don't blame fans for this though. People like to see consistent results to avoid feeling like they're jumping on bandwagons too early )
     
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  15. abedm Yellow Belt

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    Last 25 years how many players have won the scoring title or heart trophy after age of 28. Same thing with the NBA
     
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    I'd argue looking at 25 data points isn't enough.
    The studies have probably looked at a wider set of data.
    Why only look at the #1 spot if we're trying to prove a theory in general - shouldn't we look at a much wider data set?

    But you're right - not many Hart trophy winners during this tim were above 28, only:
    Forsberg - 29
    Sakic - 31
    Sedin - 29
    (Not counting St Louis at age 28)

    But there weren't many Hart winners below age 25 either:
    * Crosby (19)
    * Ovie (22,23)
    * McDavid (20)
    And arguably Sid and Ovie didn't exactly peak and then fall flat afterwards, they've been among the better players continuously. (and with McDavid it's too early to tell how long he'll be a great)
     
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  17. RightToBareKnuckles Purple Belt

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    at HW especially, and sometimes LHW, fighters can do well into their 30s and hit 40 because those usually aren't fast divisions, and speed tends to go early (like RBs in the NFL).
     
  18. mkt Gold Belt

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    I made another thread about the max prime of fighters being no more than 10 years no matter how young they started MMA. Look at Jones, Fedor, Aldo, GSP, etc. Even if they still won a few more fights (like Jones' recent fights or GSP vs. Condit), it's clear they're declining. You can definitely find football players with 10-year primes (Jerry Rice comes to mind) and Tom Brady and a few others have had much longer primes than that.
     
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    I always point this out when people think Urijah Faber or Franke Edgar "still have a chance at one more run at the title" or some other foolishness. Small declines in speed and mobility are killer in the lighter weight classes.
     

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