Why do people say Jones wins by size advantage, but no one said the same about Gus?

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  1. Alexandergreat3

    Alexandergreat3 In Fedor We Trust, amen™

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    Why do people say Jones wins mostly due to size and reach advantage, and by beating on smaller fighters or fighters out of their primes (e.g. Shogun)...

    but no one said the same about Gus, when Gus is taller and has nearly the same reach and he also fought Shogun who is smaller and is out of his prime?

    Are people truly this blinded by their own biases? :cool:
     
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    Because Gus loses.
     
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    GrindingANARCHY Banned Banned

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    Gus isn't champ and p4p King
     
  4. Alexandergreat3

    Alexandergreat3 In Fedor We Trust, amen™

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    When Jones beat Shogun, people said Jones won because of size advantage.

    However, when Gus beat Shogun, people never mentioned Gus' size advantage over Shogun.

    Double standard?
     
  5. ackileez

    ackileez ANALINGUSing a PAWG

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    Truth to what you say , however watching Gus fight , he circles and boxes...

    Jones stays away with a palm in your face, until he clinches you and by then you're taken down.

    That's why when they both fought, Gus still circled and beat jones, and jones struggled to get takedowns.

    One is skill regardless of size, and one is clearly negated by size .
     
  6. Rotorvator

    Rotorvator Green Belt

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    Boxing you and throwing fingers in your face so you can't get close are different.
     
  7. Mr. Fresca

    Mr. Fresca Thanks for playing

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    I think 90% of people acknowledged that Shogun was also past his prime vs Gus
     
  8. iwhoopedbatman

    iwhoopedbatman Fox Hunter Extraordinaire

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    Gus also turned his back and ran away several times in that fight last night, but we're not discussing it because Jones is 'a phony'. It's Sherdog, where Holden Caulfield types out his fantasies on and on forever.
     
  9. Pirroh

    Pirroh Black Belt

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    His reach was listed as 76 inches until this fight, lol.
     
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    I guess that is why Big John warned Gus for having stretched out fingers.
     
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    _Keyser_Soze_ Brown Belt

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    And Jones also gouged Gus' eyes. But you're not talking about that since you're a Jones apologist. Which is worse than a Holden Caufield type any day of the week. Learn to be objective FFS.
     
  13. Oogie Sharp

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    Well Gus isn't the champ, and under the spotlight like Jones is, and not winning in incredibly dominant fashion - against higher level of competition like Jones is.

    I'd never even heard of the guy until a year or two ago. LOL
     
  14. Hoist Gracie

    Hoist Gracie Green Belt

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    Jones uses his reach to kick kneecaps and poke eyes. Gus doesn't fight dirty like that.
     
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    What are you talking about? There are several threads on that topic.

    There are none on Gus running, despite the fact that when Jones 'ran' from Rampage we got gif threads on it every day for 3 months. This is about double standards. There are clearly a few of them when it comes to Jones.
     
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    They both beat Shogun by using their reach exceptionally well. I acknowledge that about both guys, do I get a prize?
     
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    Because people like Gus, and they have been searching for a reason to discredit Jones.
     
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    Demoslasher Brown Belt

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    Because sherdog is full of dumbass haters that can and will say anything to discredit a fighter they dont like. Jones has beaten hadily Shogun, Lyoto, Chael, Vitor, Rashad, Rampage, and now AG....all very popular guys and its obviously earned him some of the most hardcore haters ever
     
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    Gus showed he can beat someone his own size, jones not so much .
     
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    Its simple its because Jones is that good and the haters cant stand it and hate to accept it, and ofcourse the biggest reason is because Jones is black ( yea the race card bitches which is called = the truth ) so they will never give him props, it will always be Jones fault and he will always be blamed for something.

    This is a perfect example of it, If Jones said the sky is blue the shertards would say no its not.
     

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