Why do many BJJ schools bother with sit ups?

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  1. miscend

    miscend Orange Belt

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    I swear there are too many BJJ instructors who make students do hundreds of sit ups every week during classes .

    There are a lot of articles based on research showing that sit ups are not as effective as most other exercises such as planks in building strong core muscles. There are a waste of time.
     
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  2. lts5025

    lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

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    Because having a BJJ blackbelt doesn't magically grant you a degree in kinesiology or exercise science. Or nutrition for that matter.
     
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    jack36767 Brown Belt

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    Gold sir, gold
     
  4. 560ti

    560ti Purple Belt

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    Pretty much this.

    I do agree though, crunches aren't that great (ab roller, hanging leg raises, and planks are better options)
     
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  5. Bluesbreaker

    Bluesbreaker Black Belt

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    It's a movement you'll be doing a lot when fighting from the bottom.
     
  6. Thrawn33

    Thrawn33 JUST BLEED Belt

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    I guess my question to you is: if they replaced them with hundreds of a more efficient exercise would you be happy or complain about them too?

    I ask this because I hear plenty of complaints about bjj warmups, when in fact they are 10x easier than the wrestling and Judo warmups I've done over the past 10 years.
     
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  7. kenpeters8

    kenpeters8 Purple Belt

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    Sit ups are actually bad for your back.
     
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  8. Submission

    Submission White Belt

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    I think the question here is not the hardness but the utility/efectiveness
     
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    Curly Peibce Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Obviously you've not trained in this tech.

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  10. LiT_WiCK

    LiT_WiCK Brown Belt

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    Its crazy. When I have someone in guard and I go for a kimura or hip bump I find myself doing more of a sit-up motion versus a plank. Can you help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? I would like to properly train my muscle memory and if I'm wasting my time then I should fix my technique. Thanks!
     
  11. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Purple Belt

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    The factor limiting your guard attack is that you can't quite go for that 117th kimura in a match?
     
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  12. NateTx4112

    NateTx4112 Brown Belt

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    If it is sunny people will bitch that it's too hot. If its cloudy they will whine about not enough sun. If it doesn't rain they will complain that we are in a drought. If it rains they will moan about it being wet.

    It's a warmup/conditioning exercise that will give you some physical benefit. Do it and shut up. If you are a S&C expert you can take your instructor to the side and show him more efficient things to do. If not do your preferred S&C stuff outside of class, but in class do what the team does. Or go start your own school.
     
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  13. Russky

    Russky Green Belt

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    Of course I would complain,. I don't have degree in kinesiology either.
     
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    T-Bone Banned 2X but still here Double Yellow Card

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    I look at warm-up as what they are... warm-ups.

    situps as warmups are not a waste of time because they are better than nothing. I like crunches better than situps.

    Now, for general fitness outside of bjj, sure, do planks, etc.

    Just my opinion.

    -T
     
  15. yetanother

    yetanother Brown Belt

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    A lot of people are stupid an when leading a class they don't really think why something is done, they just blindly repeat things they have seen somewhere else.
     
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    winterbike Blue Belt

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    Most people are retards and don't have the emotional ability to improve as human beings and in what they do. Get used to it, it won't change any time soon.
     
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    T-Bone Banned 2X but still here Double Yellow Card

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    Sacasm? Could not tell.

    So, most instructors (most are black bets I believe) leading a class are "R" words?

    -T
     
  18. Human Bass

    Human Bass Black Belt

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    I always force my back way more than my abs doing sit ups.
     
  19. BJJ Coffee Drinker

    BJJ Coffee Drinker Amateur Fighter

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    I'm a brown belt in BJJ and have been training for competitions and teaching for a while. I also have Bachelor's degree in Kinesiology and have interned in S & C clinics that work with top collegiate and professional athletes.

    I think a reasonable amount of situps for a WARMUP is okay. I think an excessive amount of situps for CONDITIONING purposes is retarded.

    With that being said, there are much better ways to warm up and more efficient and useful movements that situps and crunches to warm up. I personally never use them but if someone uses them a little as part of their warm up routine, I won't condemn them as being a retard or lazy
     
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  20. slideyfoot

    slideyfoot Artemis BJJ Co-Founder

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    I don't bother with sit-ups in my warm-ups, but not because I dislike the exercise. The problem for me is that it isn't BJJ specific enough. Much better IMO to do something that works the same muscles, but is something you would actually do in BJJ. E.g., I get people to drill sit-up/hip bump sweeps instead.
     

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