Why did prime spider refuse to fight Wandy and Shogun back then but with another look at it now?

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  1. true_fan Silver Belt

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    I remember everyone was saying back then he would kill them both even after Rua finished the Dragon( who was supposed to get the best of spider in practice)! Do u still think Silva could’ve beat Shogun when he struggled with Cote because of his chin? I honestly think Rua would’ve beat Silva back then because he had an iron chin and would’ve bloodied the spider and broke him due to his dog fighting style back then!
    What do u think now?
     
  2. TheSpider Brown Belt

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    Prime Spider beats every MW and LHW ever except perhaps prime Jones
     
  3. Kb7 Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Anderson wanted to fight Wanderlei, but Wanderlei never reached the top. Anderson would butcher Wanderlei.

    Rua is a whole different story, in a post fight interview Anderson claimed Shogun hit him the hardest in training.
     
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    It would have been interesting for sure. I'd bet on shogun winning a decision. Wand I could see being over aggressive and getting tagged alot
     
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  5. true_fan Silver Belt

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    Your avatar disqualifies u from giving a none biased opinion
     
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  6. PizzaandBeer Banned Banned

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    They both would have beaten Anderson
     
  7. Heart Break Kid Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    Shogun had the chin, aggression and wrestling to beat Anderson.

    Wand would have got picked apart against Anderson with straight rights.

    Shogun beats Anderson
    Anderson beat Wand
    Wand beats Shogun for his puppy
     
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  8. TheSpider Brown Belt

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    You disqualify nothing. Prime Silva is the GOAT MMA striker. Brawlers like Wand and Shogun are tailor made to get Matrixed
     
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  9. kflo Titanium Belt

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    I always hear that shogun was a shell of himself after the machida fight. But then I hear that Anderson ducked him.....

    Wand was a shell after the cro-cop fight.....but Anderson ducked him.......

    This place can be comical sometimes.......
     
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    Wanderlei, especially UFC Wanderlei, gets KTFO Griffin style. Rua is a tossup, really depends on what timeframe. I would never bet against prime Anderson pulling something off but on paper Shogun's striking is level with Anderson's and he had a bit more size on him. Hard to say.

    They didn't fight back then because Wand didn't win enough in the UFC, and Dana had an aversion to champ-champ fights pre-Conor. I guess Anderson could've fought him before Shogun was champ but the timing was never right.
     
  11. Alphaboy Silver Belt

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    Including DC? :eek:
     
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    Anderson ducked shogun because he seen what rua did to machida.
     
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    It honestly is as simple as this
     
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    Post-prime, with a couple days notice after gall bladder surgery:

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    I'm not some crazy Silva fan, but I'd favor him in his prime against Cormier.
     
  15. kflo Titanium Belt

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    The moment jbj started planning the head kick.......
     
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    Anderson beat Hendo
     
  17. TheSpider Brown Belt

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    Stipe confirmed that past prime Silva exposed DC’s weakness to body shots on 2 days notice
     
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  18. true_fan Silver Belt

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    Good call
     
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    I think the same ! I favored Spider against Prime LHW Cormier, but not prime HW Cormier
     
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    You mean the prime anderson who almost got finished by Travis lutter? Shogun would hang on the feet and dominate all ground exchanges. Anderson seems to match up pretty good with wand tho.
     
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