Why are people writing off Ortega?

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  1. rl4090526 Brown Belt

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    I am a KZ fan but people think Ortega is already done lol

    Ortega had a lot of time to reflect and improve and polish his standing

    I think he is gonna be an improved fighter and make it close
     
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  2. The Eagle Green Belt

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    Only way Ortega can win is by hail mary submission.
     
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  3. Huligani Number One Bullshit

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    One of two reasons:

    1. Blind love for Asian fighters, for some reason there's a ton of it.

    2. Because KZ is murderous on the feet and Ortega isn't to nearly the same degree, and it'll be hard for Ortega to get the fight to the mat.
     
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  4. gotBooched maximus entertainus

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    Sometimes people get their ass beat so bad that fans expect it to be career altering. I think a lot of folks think Max permanently ruined Brian.
     
  5. Deadwing88 And still.

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    2 years away from MMA.. coming back to face a fighter who's arguably better in every facet of the sport.

    Not hard to realise why some are writing him off..

    Unless Ortega has finally developed a wrestling game in tandem with his BJJ, he's going to absolutely murdered on the feet..
     
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  6. dildos Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Yeah I don’t see why.

    I expect Ortega to finish KZ.
     
  7. PicoPulse Bellator Shill

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    Hes rubbing people the wrong way thats about it and he got worked by Max
    and his inactivity
     
  8. RockyLockridge Silver Belt

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    he was thoroughly exposed by holloway he has no boxing defense. KZ is no slouch on the ground either, He's advantaged everywhere but size.

    I think I'd put anyone in the top 5 to beat ortega.
     
  9. sampuncher Black Belt

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    That Max fight was one of those that can make or break a fighter.


    Im intrigued to see how Ortega does.
     
  10. Martialbeef Red Belt

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    Ortega wins this fight if the ref starts him in half guard
     
  11. Osiris3657 Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    You sure about that?

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  12. Mesos Brown Belt

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    I like Ortega but I can see where people are coming from. Guy fired his whole team, including the coach that Gave Brian “a choice” lol. Its hard to say what to expect hes with a completely new team. Theres not much sparring footage or anything else to go off of. He may come back a complete beast with better striking or he may have lost the heart for it.

    Even if Ortega comes with his best I still favor Zombie hes been looking alot better since he hired that Korean boxing guy
     
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    I just have never been overly impressed with Ortega. He's tough. Proved that in the Max fight. But I don't put too much stock into sleeping Frankie. He's tough, but his best days are behind him. Moicano hasn't had the best run and left the division to reinvent himself. Then there's the 2 year layoff that saw him still retain his high ranking.
     
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    Jung is 16-5. He's an inconsistent mid level fighter. Very overrated.
     
  15. RustyShacleford Blue Belt

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    I don't think his stand-up is so bad that he can't weather some damage and have a successful power surge to finish KZ. Like, I wouldn't bet on it, but it's more likely then what Yair did.
     
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    1. He’s never been a dominant fighter, most of his big wins came in fights he was losing.

    2. He has insane ring rust at this point.

    3. He took a massive beating in his last fight, who knows if he can rebound.
     
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  17. DerKoenig Claimed LHW Title before Chael

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    One of those losses is a huge robbery that he avenged and another is a fluke KO at the literal last second of a fight he was winning against a top contender. Not to mention he missed out on his physical prime. Stylistically terrible matchup for Ortega as well.
     
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  18. ION CUTELABA Blue Belt

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    ortega´s chin for sure has softened after a beating of a lifetime. KZ´s striking has improved a lot recently, he turned from a volume based brawler to a power punching technician.
     
  19. rl4090526 Brown Belt

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    He had some unlucky losses and none are really like legit where he was dominated
     
  20. cauti0n LMK

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    I don't know why either, I expect Zombie to get finished.
     

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